Pollypinks wrote:Conservatives understand these things intuitively? Are you s******g me?
Nope, we do....
No one on Wall Street in jail.
There ARE Wall Street people in jail. Why should all of them be in jail?
If you are talking about the current crisis, it wasn't caused by Wall Street, it was caused by Liberals and their policy's. Just look at the videos on Youtube of Barny Frank etc. saying there was nothing wrong with Fanny/Freddy etc. years ago when Bush, etc. was trying to STOP the problem we are currently in. It's liberals who implemented the requirements for lending institutions to give loans to people that couldn't prove they could pay for homes, and then to package all these bad loans, speculating on a shell game.
Just look at the nightmare we are currently in. In just 2 1/2 years liberals have completely thrashed this economy. We would have been already on track to healing and not even close the dept etc. had conservatives been in control. To give you just even one of the "local" effects, when liberals gained power, and then gave the bailouts, the also put in requirements that anyone who wanted to sell a house and if they had owned that house less than a year and/or if that house wasn't their primary residence, and someone tried to get a loan to buy that house, they couldn't get a loan for it, they were BANNED from getting a loan to buy a house from someone who fit those aspects. Thus, liberals enacted a policy which DIRECTLY has deepened the housing crisis. This was INTENTIONAL. Liberals as conservatives have been telling you is trying to make America "low", like all other country's. Remember what Obama said about Gas or Energy? He said too bad if gas or power bills go way up, when they implemented "green" policy's.
It is liberals who should be in Jail, not people who are trying to make a better life for themselves and others, normal businessmen.
No billion dollar corporation paying any taxes, which would alleviate all the entitlement cutting.
You don't know what you're talking about. The top 1% of earners pay what 90% of all Taxes, and the to 50% of earners pays like 100%??? Have you also compared corporate taxes per-capita of the U.S. with other country's? Our company's actually pay MORE taxes than nearly all other country's. Why do you think many company's have left the U.S. and gone overseas?
Further, conservative "entitlement cutting" is another of many liberal lies.... Conservatives wish to restructure entitlements so they are sustainable. Also, we wish to decrease the size of government which would again make things sustainable. Do you have any comprehension how big government has gotten compared to even 30 years ago? Do you know how much that COSTS, and how much that keeps money OUT of the pockets of those who need that money??? We are supporting "government" instead of PEOPLE....
Claiming to be pro-life, and then treating the poor like dirt under their shoes.
Malarky.... Again, another liberal lie. Conservatives and company's give to those in need vastly more than liberals. Conservatives believe in following the Mormon/Scriptural model, and that is by giving help temporarily and providing people with the tools and knowledge to better themselves. It's good to give a fish, and we do that, but it's more important to teach a man to fish, for then he benefits not only himself, but his family and his society. The Liberal Welfare State is destructive to ALL, especially the poor.
Further, who are you to talk.... Being so "anti-killing" anything or anyone, yet the Liberal willingly murdering the most defensive human being still in the womb, or born early and then killed, like Obama is in writing supportive of.
Aw yes, and now we see exactly what was seen prior the Great Depression. Intuition??? No.
Yes, and back then it was liberal policy's that created and sustained the Great Depression.
It's wasn't conservatism. Liberalism was VERY strong back then. Planned Parenthood for example was started by liberals who believed in "Eugenics", as an attempt to limit propagation of the black race and other "lower" classes. Irony is that Germany learned it from American liberals. In contrast, after WWII and up till Bush Conservatism is what created prosperity and American power. But, once liberals started gaining more power, the 60's radicals, this country is again going to crap.
When the middle class is gone, within 10 years, there's gonna be some major trouble on the streets. It should be happening now, but Americans are much more complacent than other thinking countries.
Actually, America as bad as things are, they aren't YET as bad as most of the other so-called "thinking" country's. This is one reason why conservatives are trying to stop liberal policy's, because we actually know their EFFECTS, and their effects are clear as day in many other country's that to one degree or another live by them. So, spare us the same against America as if it's people aren't "thinking". We are just like anyone else. There are those who think right, those who think wrong, and many in-between. And you are right, when things start to get really bad, then even more sides will be chosen.
Conservatives believing in capitalism, yet keeping other pharmaceutical companies out, when if it's done correctly, all could benefit from health care here.
First, we get lot's of products from other country's, including drugs. Simply because the U.S. has some stricture standards, doesn't somehow mean "conservatives" are keeping Pharma's out. Plus, I thought you were FOR "regulation" for "safety" reasons.....??? Now you want "deregulation"??? As to health care, a LOT of people benefit from American health care. Most who need and want quality care come to the U.S., not other country's.
Am I a communist? Is the V.A. a communist? I worked for them for 14 years, and nobody bitched about them taking a number and seeing a doc, and taking home their pills that day. None of the vets were bitching, unless the line was too long.
Apples and Oranges.... The V.A. is a specialized "exception" to the general rule, and it gets what it NEEDS per Congress. In contrast, changing to the entire American health care system to work like the VA, you then have health care tied into the economy itself, so you then cannot just "ask" for more money, when there isn't the money, like you can with the VA. Do you propose we run our Country like the Military also.... a police state, a dictatorship, an Orphanage??? Thus, just because the VA "works" in it's current limited capacity, doesn't mean the same system would work on a Macro scale. Please take a class on Micro and Macro Economics and learn something. In fact, a normal class on that main subject alone will tell you almost all you need about the INSANITY of liberal thinking and policy's. They think like children, having no comprehension of the consequences of their actions. It's just like the stupidity of them thinking if the just throw MORE MONEY at things, then things will be better.