Obama finally resolves birth cert issue of his own making

[_Baker]

"Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish. Presidents with one immigrant parent are Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England, James Buchanan (1857-1861) and Chester Arthur (1881-1885), both of whom had Irish fathers, and Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mothers were born respectively in England and Canada."

Guess they were all illegitimate - illegitimate, according to Obiwan, but white ...

http://community.myvoa.com/_The-Seventh ... 45137.html

[_Ceeboo]

Wow!

Now THAT was some rather strange reading.



Peace,
Ceeboo

[_msnobody]

I think Donald Trump should reciprocate by showing O'Bama his birth certificate.

[_Obiwan]

First, I said "basically every one", and I said "attempted and/or did kill", and second I/we prooved it to you.

No, this is what you said:

every person that tried to kill an American President has been a leftist

Seems like you can't even keep track of what you're saying on these message boards. Do you retract the above quoted statement?

There you go LYING once again..... This is like the THIRD TIME or so you've taken my words out of context by "omiting" as all anti-mormons and liberals do important details. You omit the word "basically" before the words "every person". Thus, I said:

"basically every person that tried to kill an American President has been a leftist"
When are you going to repent of your bearing false witness of others?

It's amazing that people have such low intellectual and logic skills, while acting like they got it right, when they actually got nothing right.

If there was some kind of award for the most ironic statement ever made on this message board...

Back to you....

You did nothing but harp on an extremely weak example of your claim, while I showed several examples of clear leftists clearly proving my claim.

McKinley was just one example. You failed to talk about John Wilkes Booth. What gives?

You are so funny.... I entirely addressed Booth, you just ignored it.
Booth was a leftist, not a conservative. A conservative doesn't try to kill a conservative moron. And one issue doesn't make a conservative moron, any more than Obama allowing the wars to continue makes him a conservative.

You really need to read that thread again, and get off your highhorse, cause you keep bringing this up out of the blue, trying to make me seem stupid when YOU are the stupid one.

Trust me Obiwan, you don't need any help from me. Here is the thread, with several posts you haven't answered:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17396&start=0

Well, people who are objective know that you are the one who is not objective, is lying about history, lies about my words, etc. Your only semi-legit defense was the nut who tried to kill Reagan. Again, common sense buddy among the many other facts. Reagon was one of our most conservative presidents, and you're actually trying to claim a conservative tried to kill a conservative? Idiot.

So again I ask, do you retract your statement that "every person that tried to kill an American President has been a leftist" now?

And I repeat again.... You falsely represent my statement, and my statement is entirely true, thus no need to retract. You are the one who needs to retract, your lies about me, and your lies about Presidential assassins. Basically and essentially NONE were conservative, but all were essentially leftists. My statement stands according to the full facts, rather than your fantasy.

[_Obiwan]

Dear Obiwan,

Could you name me any GOP Member of the U.S. Congress that agrees with you that President Barack Obama is not "a natural born American citizen?" As far as I am aware, there is not even one single GOP Member of the U.S. Congress that agrees with you that President Barack Obama is not "a natural born American citizen." I think that all of the GOP Members of Congress do believe that President Barack Obama is "a natural born American citizen." Are you just going by what the far right news outlet, World-Net-Daily, which has been claiming that President Barack Obama is not "a natural born American citizen?"

Donald, You’re Fired!:
http://factcheck.org/2011/04/donald-youre-fired/

I don't know off hand every single persons views, but I do know that all believe he's a "citizen". That however is far different from being a "natural born citizen". I know there are many who don't believe he's a natural born citizen. Further, I don't think this issue has been a priority or "knowledge" for the others who don't know anything about this issue. Not all conservatives know all the same things as other conservatives.

I'm frankly disappointed that this hasn't been a priority issue, because it's clear.
Also, you are missrepresenting my point. My point has nothing to do with Obama's "birth place", but as to the Constitution of the United States as to what makes a "natural born" citizen compared to a citizen.

Also, despite the small amount that Factcheck.org might get right, it's a leftist group and thus most of it's "facts" are not the actual facts at all but misinformation. There have been many issues that factcheck.org is NOT "factually" reporting on. There's facts, and then there's the FULL FACTS and TRUTH. Factcheck.org like most liberals use a little bit of fact to tell great lies in most issues.

Anyway, off subject..... Watch this video please and get a clue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI

I and most conservatives never had any "actual" doubt that Obama was born here. What is in doubt however is that he is a "natural born" citizen. He is not legally eligable for the Presidency and I'm simply amazed that this has been glossed over.

[Guest]

"Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish. Presidents with one immigrant parent are Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England, James Buchanan (1857-1861) and Chester Arthur (1881-1885), both of whom had Irish fathers, and Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mothers were born respectively in England and Canada."

Guess they were all illegitimate - illegitimate, according to Obiwan, but white ...

http://community.myvoa.com/_The-Seventh ... 45137.html

Why don't you start telling the TRUTH for a change....???

Being the child of an "immigrant" has NOTHING to do with the issue.
Each of those former Presidents parents were CITIZENS of the United States. Obama's Father WAS NOT a Citizen of the United States. The constitution requires that a President is a "natural born" citizen, that means someone born to two U.S. Citizens, as well as born on U.S. soil or said territories. Watch the video above. Even Obama by his own words disqualifies himself when he was involved in ensuring John McCain was "natural born". That is of course if he applied his words to himself, which he won't and hasn't, instead he has ursurped the Constitution.

Again as ignorant liberals you try to claim "racism" by your using the word "white", when racism or being white has nothing at all to do with the issue. Liberals and anti-mormons are all the same, when you don't have the required knowledge and intellect you go for the lowest common demoninator..... that is that Mormons or conservatives are "liars", are "racists", etc. etc. You see some, but ignorant of most, thus you falsely judge, bearing false witness. tisk tisk :(

[Guest]

Dear Obiwan,

Could you name me any GOP Member of the U.S. Congress that agrees with you that President Barack Obama is not "a natural born American citizen?" As far as I am aware, there is not even one single GOP Member of the U.S. Congress that agrees with you that President Barack Obama is not "a natural born American citizen." I think that all of the GOP Members of Congress do believe that President Barack Obama is "a natural born American citizen." Are you just going by what the far right news outlet, World-Net-Daily, which has been claiming that President Barack Obama is not "a natural born American citizen?"

Donald, You’re Fired!:
http://factcheck.org/2011/04/donald-youre-fired/

I don't know off hand every single persons views, but I do know that all believe he's a "citizen". That however is far different from being a "natural born citizen". I know there are many who don't believe he's a natural born citizen. Further, I don't think this issue has been a priority or "knowledge" for the others who don't know anything about this issue. Not all conservatives know all the same things as other conservatives.

I'm frankly disappointed that this hasn't been a priority issue, because it's clear.
Also, you are missrepresenting my point. My point has nothing to do with Obama's "birth place", but as to the Constitution of the United States as to what makes a "natural born" citizen compared to a citizen.

Also, despite the small amount that Factcheck.org might get right, it's a leftist group and thus most of it's "facts" are not the actual facts at all but misinformation. There have been many issues that factcheck.org is NOT "factually" reporting on. There's facts, and then there's the FULL FACTS and TRUTH. Factcheck.org like most liberals use a little bit of fact to tell great lies in most issues.

Anyway, off subject..... Watch this video please and get a clue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI

I and most conservatives never had any "actual" doubt that Obama was born here. What is in doubt however is that he is a "natural born" citizen. He is not legally eligable for the Presidency and I'm simply amazed that this has been glossed over.

And you're a bigot looking for justification. Interesting video, but overstates the case that is some overriding legal requirement that is being ignored in the case of Obama. If that had been the case, the hard-core bigoted right would have harped on that instead of the BS birth certificate issue.

[_Baker]

"Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish. Presidents with one immigrant parent are Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England, James Buchanan (1857-1861) and Chester Arthur (1881-1885), both of whom had Irish fathers, and Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mothers were born respectively in England and Canada."

Guess they were all illegitimate - illegitimate, according to Obiwan, but white ...

http://community.myvoa.com/_The-Seventh ... 45137.html

Why don't you start telling the TRUTH for a change....???

Being the child of an "immigrant" has NOTHING to do with the issue.
Each of those former Presidents parents were CITIZENS of the United States. Obama's Father WAS NOT a Citizen of the United States. The constitution requires that a President is a "natural born" citizen, that means someone born to two U.S. Citizens, as well as born on U.S. soil or said territories. Watch the video above. Even Obama by his own words disqualifies himself when he was involved in ensuring John McCain was "natural born". That is of course if he applied his words to himself, which he won't and hasn't, instead he has ursurped the Constitution.

No, the interpretation you choose to accept does. That is not the damned law, you idiot.

Study much constitutional law? Or only at the hands of like-minded wing nuts?

[_Obiwan]

And you're a bigot looking for justification. Interesting video, but overstates the case that is some overriding legal requirement that is being ignored in the case of Obama. If that had been the cases, the hard-core bigoted right would have harped on that instead of the b***s*** birth certificate issue.

Screw you scumbag!!! I know who I am and what I believe, as well as other conservatives, and your portrayal is both immoral and FALSE. The birth certificate is a "first step" in unequivically demonstrating that he's NOT "natural born". Although I would agree, that I wish they had instead primarily focused on his being natural born.

Also, the video doesn't at all "overstate" the case, it's clear and unequivical.

Further, I've already refruted your "bigot" claim..... I would have the same views no matter who he was, white, asian, otherwise. I'm constitutionalist slimeball, and such has nothing to do with "bigotry", it has to do with valuing the values that made this country great. I would have the same problem if it was Kerry, Gore, or any other left nut in office if they weren't eligable. So, get a clue will you??? And not only that, but even if it was a wonderful "conservative"..... If he wasn't eligable then I would be saying the same dang thing, just like I and most other conservatives were against some of Bush's decisions that we thought were wrong or too liberal. So, stop being ignorant..... And realize that people make judgments for things other than race you figgin scum!!! :(

[_Baker]

And you're a bigot looking for justification. Interesting video, but overstates the case that is some overriding legal requirement that is being ignored in the case of Obama. If that had been the cases, the hard-core bigoted right would have harped on that instead of the b***s*** birth certificate issue.

Screw you scumbag!!! I know who I am and what I believe, as well as other conservatives, and your portrayal is both immoral and FALSE. The birth certificate is a "first step" in unequivically demonstrating that he's NOT "natural born". Although I would agree, that I wish they had instead primarily focused on his being natural born.

Also, the video doesn't at all "overstate" the case, it's clear and unequivical.

Further, I've already refruted your "bigot" claim..... I would have the same views no matter who he was, white, asian, otherwise. I'm constitutionalist slimeball, and such has nothing to do with "bigotry", it has to do with valuing the values that made this country great. I would have the same problem if it was Kerry, Gore, or any other left nut in office if they weren't eligable. So, get a clue will you???

I think all you've demonstrated that you are narrow-minded and hold extremist views not shared with rationally-thinking individuals.

Oh, and your Jesus builds shopping malls.

P.S. - Chester Arthur's father was not an American citizen at the time of his birth.