Obama: And other tyrants who use children as props

[_Doctor Steuss]

I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword...

Pretty poor exegesis, Dr.

I know.

[_just me]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/19/stemcells.veto/

Here is Bush using children to promote a false dichotomy. Stem cell research OR adopted frozen embryos. Fact is despite embryo adoption thousands upon thousands of embryos were being destroyed anyway.

But, I'm sure that only "leftist" "liberals" can be viewed as "tyrants." lol

[_Brackite]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/19/stemcells.veto/

Here is Bush using children to promote a false dichotomy. Stem cell research OR adopted frozen embryos. Fact is despite embryo adoption thousands upon thousands of embryos were being destroyed anyway.

But, I'm sure that only "leftist" "liberals" can be viewed as "tyrants." lol

Thanks for finding this news story for us. I knew I remember hearing about this news story back in 2006.
Some Republicans, such as Senator John McCain disagreed with George W. Bush over that issue.

[_beastie]

Here's what doesn't have to go through Congress.

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... ezra-klein

Now, I know there is very little chance bcspace will actually engage in these points. He does fly-by farts, we all know that. But just in case he's got a more reasonable twin out there, I ask this:

which of these points that does not require congressional action constitutes tyranny?

Apparently bcspace can't answer this question.

Given the fact that's already shown himself to be a low-information voter, I would suspect he actually had no idea what Obama had proposed, and was just parroting his right-wing talking points.

[_Droopy]

quote="Droopy"quote="Doctor Steuss"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword...

Pretty poor exegesis, Dr.

That all your sentences were that short.

I'm sorry Lulu, but I don't usually write for the 7th - 8th reading levels and attention spans commonly found in this forum.

[_Droopy]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/19/stemcells.veto/

Here is Bush using children to promote a false dichotomy. Stem cell research OR adopted frozen embryos. Fact is despite embryo adoption thousands upon thousands of embryos were being destroyed anyway.

But, I'm sure that only "leftist" "liberals" can be viewed as "tyrants." lol

There's no problem with this at all. Embryonic stem cells have long been recognized as, thus far, being a complete medical dead end, with not a single therapy or viable application having come out any existing lines.

Adult stem cell research, however, holds a great deal of promise. The only reason embryonic stems cells have become the cause celeb of the Left is because they are...embryonic, not because there is any scientific evidence of their efficacy.

[_EAllusion]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/19/stemcells.veto/

Here is Bush using children to promote a false dichotomy. Stem cell research OR adopted frozen embryos. Fact is despite embryo adoption thousands upon thousands of embryos were being destroyed anyway.

But, I'm sure that only "leftist" "liberals" can be viewed as "tyrants." lol

There's no problem with this at all. Embryonic stem cells have long been recognized as, thus far, being a complete medical dead end, with not a single therapy or viable application having come out any existing lines.

Adult stem cell research, however, holds a great deal of promise. The only reason embryonic stems cells have become the cause celeb of the Left is because they are...embryonic, not because there is any scientific evidence of their efficacy.

Bush's stem cell policy was spearheaded by a bio-ethicist who thinks it is immoral to eat ice cream.

You're confused about the science here, by the way. You're confusing your claim with the relatively recent research that allows adult stem cells to mimic limited pluripotency so they can approximate the value embryonic stem cells. The value would be that we can use adult stem cells as we do embryonic ones. Unfortunately, you declared those to be of no research value.

This NIH website might clear it up:

http://stemcells.nih.gov/information/basics/pages/basics5.aspx

Then again, probably not.

[_just me]

Bush's stem cell policy was spearheaded by a bio-ethicist who thinks it is immoral to eat ice cream.

You're confused about the science here, by the way. You're confusing your claim with the relatively recent research that allows adult stem cells to mimic limited pluripotency so they can approximate the value embryonic stem cells. The value would be that we can use adult stem cells as we do embryonic ones. Unfortunately, you declared those to be of no research value.

This NIH website might clear it up:

http://stemcells.nih.gov/information/basics/pages/basics5.aspx

Then again, probably not.

Not only is Droopy wrong, he also didn't even answer my post. Children were used to create a false dichotomy.

I'd ask Droopy if he thinks throwing the embryonic cells straight in the trash is somehow more noble and moral than using them for research. Because that's where most of them end up. The garbage.

[_Morley]

Bush's stem cell policy was spearheaded by a bio-ethicist who thinks it is immoral to eat ice cream.

You're confused about the science here, by the way. You're confusing your claim with the relatively recent research that allows adult stem cells to mimic limited pluripotency so they can approximate the value embryonic stem cells. The value would be that we can use adult stem cells as we do embryonic ones. Unfortunately, you declared those to be of no research value.

This NIH website might clear it up:

http://stemcells.nih.gov/information/basics/pages/basics5.aspx

Then again, probably not.

Not only is Droopy wrong, he also didn't even answer my post. Children were used to create a false dichotomy.

I'd ask Droopy if he thinks throwing the embryonic cells straight in the trash is somehow more noble and moral than using them for research. Because that's where most of them end up. The garbage.

like.

[_krose]

You're confused about the science here, by the way.

Shame on you. Apparently you have forgotten that Droopy knows everything about everything. He is the expert on all subjects.

Let us all keep in mind how truly blessed we are that he deigns to share a tiny bit of his great intellect and vast education with us.