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ldsfaqs wrote:Do you remember Obama calling the Constitution a document of "Negative Rights"?

No. Please point me to the original text of the speech or document where it was said, and I'll take a look.
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beastie wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:
I have bomb making materials and have made bombs before simply because it's a useful skill if ever needed, and when first interested I was pursuing Law Enforcement, so I wanted to be educated in that sense also. If I hadn't had experience with guns, and other kinds of things, people etc., that Freedom allowed me to become a good cop if I had continued down that path.



Is anyone else seriously, and I mean seriously, disturbed by this?


Actually, I am more disturbed by this:

Tarski: Freedom doesn't mean being able to do whatever you want.

subgenius: actually that is what the word means.

Stupidity can be more disturbing than insanity.
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My two cent:

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MeDotOrg wrote:
beastie wrote:Is anyone else seriously, and I mean seriously, disturbed by this?


Nah, that is totally normal. Bomb building is an intrinsic part of law enforcement. It's just like students in medical school who make their own drugs at home. You're okay with that, aren't you?


I just love liberal and anti-mormon strawmen, it's so joyous to see the stupidity.

Law Enforcement often confronts people with bombs or bomb making materials, thus any good cop that want's to be the best, will learn and be familiar with how they work, how they are made, etc.

A doctor also learns how drugs function, work, etc., the difference is that unlike law enforcement, they don't have to know how to physically make them because unlike with a bomb, they don't have to know how to disarm them, know their blast radius, etc. etc.

Tell me people..... Are you "experts" in how to use a "gun" if you've never fired one?
No you are not, so why do you think someone would be an expert with a bomb if they've never learned how they work, built one, and blew them up? They wouldn't.

A "drug" is not a "physical" object that takes physical actions to be handled, operated, and functioning. It's a chemical, that all one has to know is simple "facts" of how that chemical operates in the body. A doctor doesn't have to touch it, unlike a bomb!

Dumb Dumb Dumb..... :rolleyes:
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ludwigm wrote:My two cent:

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No, I have no image yet...


Image

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beastie wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:
I have bomb making materials and have made bombs before simply because it's a useful skill if ever needed, and when first interested I was pursuing Law Enforcement, so I wanted to be educated in that sense also. If I hadn't had experience with guns, and other kinds of things, people etc., that Freedom allowed me to become a good cop if I had continued down that path.



Is anyone else seriously, and I mean seriously, disturbed by this?


It is disturbing. ldsfaqs is a little disturbing without the admission that he has an interest in making bombs "if ever needed".
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I always find it fascinating how so many of these supposedly constitution-loving gun nuts have a disturbing fantasy where they will one day have to band together for the purpose of fighting and killing police and US soldiers. That's essentially what they mean when they talk about needing their guns to fight against their own government -- killing cops and soldiers in an armed revolution.

Never mind that the very same constitution that includes the second amendment requires Congress to "suppress insurrections," and that the president swears a solemn oath to defend against enemies, "foreign and domestic."
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ldsfaqs wrote:I have bomb making materials and have made bombs before simply because it's a useful skill if ever needed, and when first interested I was pursuing Law Enforcement, so I wanted to be educated in that sense also. If I hadn't had experience with guns, and other kinds of things, people etc., that Freedom allowed me to become a good cop if I had continued down that path.


MeDotOrg wrote:Nah, that is totally normal. Bomb building is an intrinsic part of law enforcement. It's just like students in medical school who make their own drugs at home. You're okay with that, aren't you?


ldsfaqs wrote:I just love liberal and anti-mormon strawmen, it's so joyous to see the stupidity.


ldsfaqs, imagine you and your family live next to a house, and you become aware that the man who lives there is storing bomb making material and building bombs in his basement.

Do you:

a. Confront the man, and ask him why he's building bombs in the basement. (He could have a very legitimate reason! - see answer b.)

b. Just assume he's building bombs because he's practicing to be a policeman. (Then it's okay!)

c. Alert the local authorities to your suspicions.

Call me crazy, but I'm going to go with c.

There are classes for bomb disposal and handling. I honestly don't know how many 'self-taught' bomb disposal experts there are, but given the rather steep learning curve afforded by failure, I think I would want training from an expert before deciding to cut the black wire or the red wire.

I'm not sure how that makes me a liberal or Anti-Mormon....
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The really scary thing is these obvious and rational arguments for why people don't need to make bombs in their basements in the hopes of being a policeman one day will be absolutely meaningless to ldsfaq. He is 100% impervious to reason.
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I'm just extremely grateful that he doesn't live next door to me.

I know he doesn't, because the neighbor on one side is an open-minded exmo. And the guy on the other side was a real police officer for many years, not some wannabe warrior/cop who plays with guns and makes 'practice' bombs while dreaming of one day overthrowing the democratically elected government of his own country.
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