Armed Cop was at School: didn't go in

[_Jersey Girl]

If he did not call for back up and report the situation, that just adds to his failure, if he did not have a radio on his person that is equally bad. The Sheriff made it clear he did not do his job, and that waiting for back up was not an option.

My guess is 911 was flooded in seconds after it started by most every teacher and student that had a chance and where with in to use their phones.

I'm unwilling to crucify this officer based on what the Sheriff hasn't told us. (Ironically, we just had a conversation about this here at the house).

There's a couple more reasons why I'm not willing to crucify him. The Sheriff's dept. had 39 calls on this shooter prior to the shooting. Did the Sheriff's dept. do it's job when it had 39 possible chances to do so, particularly those calls after the shooter was no longer a juvenile?

The FBI had a call on the shooter in January. The FBI admits that it failed to follow through. The FBI failed to do it's job.

Now, I don't know the answers to the questions that I have posed. Perhaps someone here has seen reports beyond what I have seen. But no, I'm not willing to crucify this one officer and pin all responsibility on one guy until I see or hear more details from the timeline that day and particularly when the Sheriff's dept and FBI had chances to prevent this tragedy and failed to do so.

I don't think that one person in the chain leading up to this event does not have full responsibility for it's successful execution. Not until I know more.

[_Xenophon]

I'm unwilling to crucify this officer based on what the Sheriff hasn't told us. (Ironically, we just had a conversation about this here at the house).

There's a couple more reasons why I'm not willing to crucify him. The Sheriff's dept. had 39 calls on this shooter prior to the shooting. Did the Sheriff's dept. do it's job when it had 39 possible chances to do so, particularly those calls after the shooter was no longer a juvenile?

The FBI had a call on the shooter in January. The FBI admits that it failed to follow through. The FBI failed to do it's job.

Now, I don't know the answers to the questions that I have posed. Perhaps someone here has seen reports beyond what I have seen. But no, I'm not willing to crucify this one officer and pin all responsibility on one guy until I see or hear more details from the timeline that day and particularly when the Sheriff's dept and FBI had chances to prevent this tragedy and failed to do so.

I don't think that one person in the chain leading up to this event does not have full responsibility for it's successful execution. Not until I know more.

When you need a scapegoat, just about anything will suffice.

I'll second your thoughts here that I think crucifying one person over this isn't wise. As others have rightly pointed out, Peterson will likely question himself the rest of his days on his lack of response; regardless of what instructions he was given, training (or lack thereof) that he had, awareness of the gravity of what was happening, it is unlikely he can even look himself in the mirror(I certainly don't envy his position).

But many others that are involved ought to be in the same boat. As Jersey points out, the FBI and Sheriff's office have some blood on their hands and I wonder if part of the reason that Israel called Peterson out publicly was to deflect some of that heat. So also do the politicians, lobbyists and citizens that continue to resist absolutely any bit of gun control. Society as a whole failed to protect these kids, let's not blame shift just to make ourselves feel better.

[_Markk]

I'm unwilling to crucify this officer based on what the Sheriff hasn't told us. (Ironically, we just had a conversation about this here at the house).

There's a couple more reasons why I'm not willing to crucify him. The Sheriff's dept. had 39 calls on this shooter prior to the shooting. Did the Sheriff's dept. do it's job when it had 39 possible chances to do so, particularly those calls after the shooter was no longer a juvenile?

The FBI had a call on the shooter in January. The FBI admits that it failed to follow through. The FBI failed to do it's job.

Now, I don't know the answers to the questions that I have posed. Perhaps someone here has seen reports beyond what I have seen. But no, I'm not willing to crucify this one officer and pin all responsibility on one guy until I see or hear more details from the timeline that day and particularly when the Sheriff's dept and FBI had chances to prevent this tragedy and failed to do so.

I don't think that one person in the chain leading up to this event does not have full responsibility for it's successful execution. Not until I know more.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/22/us/flori ... index.html

[_subgenius]

HORRIBLE.

So there WAS an armed guard (something the Right says would have prevented the shooting) on duty and he froze and stayed outside as kids died.

Yes, let us all takes cue for judgment from Kg's posts.
One correction - it is not would have but should have.....yet according to your posts, an armed person on school grounds should have resulted in an accidental shooting by a kid that stole the gun....so i guess your posts and this imaginary "the Right" ( for which you claim intimate awareness of) are both lousy at insight and prophecies.

[_subgenius]

What's you guys take on the Sheriff's account? Did anyone here see that he or anyone else supplied the information that I called into question? I haven't see it myself.

knowing the whole story, facts, or context just confuses many posters here, please don't upset the apple cart.

[_Jersey Girl]

Markkkk I'll engage that article later today. Thank you.

Does anyone know if the shooter was wearing body armor? I didn't see mention of that in any reports.

[_Jersey Girl]

One more thing and I've gotta run here. I just wanted to say that if the officer in question doesn't kill himself in the next week, I'll be surprised.

[_Doctor Steuss]

According to "sources," it might have been not just the resource deputy, but three other deputies as well that didn't go in.

From CNN:

...many officers were surprised to find not only that Broward County Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson, the armed school resource officer, had not entered the building, but that three other Broward County Sheriff's deputies were also outside the school and had not entered...

[_Jersey Girl]

I'm unwilling to crucify this officer based on what the Sheriff hasn't told us. (Ironically, we just had a conversation about this here at the house).

There's a couple more reasons why I'm not willing to crucify him. The Sheriff's dept. had 39 calls on this shooter prior to the shooting. Did the Sheriff's dept. do it's job when it had 39 possible chances to do so, particularly those calls after the shooter was no longer a juvenile?

The FBI had a call on the shooter in January. The FBI admits that it failed to follow through. The FBI failed to do it's job.

Now, I don't know the answers to the questions that I have posed. Perhaps someone here has seen reports beyond what I have seen. But no, I'm not willing to crucify this one officer and pin all responsibility on one guy until I see or hear more details from the timeline that day and particularly when the Sheriff's dept and FBI had chances to prevent this tragedy and failed to do so.

I don't think that one person in the chain leading up to this event does not have full responsibility for it's successful execution. Not until I know more.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/22/us/flori ... index.html

Thanks again for the link. For some unknown reason I cannot copy/paste the text of the article here.

I want to show you what pisses me off about this type of half assed reporting.

About 5 para's down, it says that the officer got on the radio and took a position where he could see the West entry of the building.

Got on the radio and said what? What was the conversation? What did he report? Was he given direction, by whom and what was it? Where is the transcript of those communications?

Do not let your brain zone out when you read statements like that. Look for what it is NOT telling you.

I want to see a full transcript of that conversation. Where is it?

[_Markk]

Thanks again for the link. For some unknown reason I cannot copy/paste the text of the article here.

I want to show you what pisses me off about this type of half assed reporting.

About 5 para's down, it says that the officer got on the radio and took a position where he could see the West entry of the building.

Got on the radio and said what? What was the conversation? What did he report? Was he given direction, by whom and what was it? Where is the transcript of those communications?

Do not let your brain zone out when you read statements like that. Look for what it is NOT telling you.

I want to see a full transcript of that conversation. Where is it?

I'll ask my son the SOP, and what they teach at a sheriffs academy. He taught at a large one for a few years.