Jersey Girl wrote:Let me throw this not-so-unrelated fact on the table as food for thought. When Hurricane Katrina victims were evacuated to the Huston Astrodome, a nationwide call went out via my professional organization for volunteer ECE professionals to come on site to serve the families and meet the children's needs (along with medical professionals) while adults met with various organizations during the disaster relief process. My employer refused to grant me leave--the complete asses. Keep in mind that the evacuees likely had some form of id on them such as DL's.
The adult immigration detention centers (to my knowledge) have no on site resources to serve the children who have crossed the border with undocumented adults. The undocumented children are being served as a separate group apart from adults.
So there's a comparison for you all.
Hurricanes do not think. They have no motivation as to where they go and why. They are not formed to intentionally break any law for their own benefits. While they undoubtedly inflict financial consequences and human suffering, they do so without a pre-planned or premeditated financial focused gain on the backs of others. We can’t stop Hurricanes at our border.
All of the above is not true with illegal border crossings
Res Ipsa wrote:I think you make a very good argument for separation until parentage is confirmed.
I'm confident that I do. There's not a question in my mind that the best place for temp. children in this situation is in a least restrictive environment where their needs are met and where they can be attended to medically.
If the administration intends to detain asylum applicants until a decision is made, that could take several years. If it does, would you favor keeping the children in a separate facility during that detention?
There may already be a system on place for this via state departments of social or human services or federal Health and Human Services.
If parentage or blood relative had been determined (Ex: Auntie crosses with her sister's children), I would recommend that they be accommodated by registered and screened host families that would sponsor them during the asylum process, with a report-in accountability subsystem in place. In other words, I would essentially foster the family as a unit.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Another issue. Military bases and posts are also being looked at as temp. housing for detainees. I'm not entirely certain if those are installations that are fully operational or if that includes properties that have been closed. It's been a long time since I kept up with base closures. Also not sure what base/post facilities would be used for that purpose. But, it's on the table.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
After digging around for what's actually being done, I think this Vox explainer is pretty helpful. https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17443198/ ... ed-parents It's still not clear to me whether asylum seekers who present at a port of entry are being criminally prosecuted or just those that cross the border elsewhere. It sounds like there may be confusion within the government.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Res Ipsa wrote:After digging around for what's actually being done, I think this Vox explainer is pretty helpful. https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17443198/ ... ed-parents It's still not clear to me whether asylum seekers who present at a port of entry are being criminally prosecuted or just those that cross the border elsewhere. It sounds like there may be confusion within the government.
Or confusion in half assed reporting. Just got an SOS from a Facebook parent, I'll look later.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Res Ipsa wrote:After digging around for what's actually being done, I think this Vox explainer is pretty helpful. https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17443198/ ... ed-parents It's still not clear to me whether asylum seekers who present at a port of entry are being criminally prosecuted or just those that cross the border elsewhere. It sounds like there may be confusion within the government.
Or confusion in half assed reporting. Just got an SOS from a Facebook parent, I'll look later.
Or maybe both. Thanks!
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Jersey Girl wrote: My employer refused to grant me leave--the complete asses.
Why is your company an ass for refusing your leave?
Is your cause their responsibility? Why didn’t you just take vacation or quit? Or is this just like your timberland private school cause you want to impress everyone with?
Should your company give you leave all day to post here as well or do they just not know?
How many of these children arrived with their parents?
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
I'm still waiting on someone who is outraged at this to provide a solution...
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Keep in mind that the evacuees likely had some form of id on them such as DL's.
