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honorentheos wrote:CNN telling you Harris is a front-runner appeared to be enough to turn you off of her as a candidate. .


Nobody likes misleading headlines.

honorentheos wrote:I miss how this answers the question asked regarding what qualifications you look for in a candidate. I brought up the example of a candidate's age to ask you to dig deeper into why that matter.


I like candidates that don't have wealthy donors for the primaries. For me important issues are climate change, stem cell research and cloning, and technology. I like O'Rourke, but he doesn't have experience.
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OK, so how does a candidate demonstrate they will effectively represent you when it comes to those issues? What qualifications are necessary for you to feel they can actually move the needle on these issues in the direction you believe is best?
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honorentheos wrote:OK, so how does a candidate demonstrate they will effectively represent you when it comes to those issues? What qualifications are necessary for you to feel they can actually move the needle on these issues in the direction you believe is best?

i feel it when they cash my check.
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honorentheos wrote:OK, so how does a candidate demonstrate they will effectively represent you when it comes to those issues?


Unfortunately I haven't seen many candidates that are willing to fight for stem cell research and cloning. For me a good candidate shouldn't have wealthy donors in the primaries.
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honorentheos wrote:What qualifications are necessary for you to feel they can actually move the needle on these issues in the direction you believe is best?


We need someone that knows how to solve complicated problems and has a good voting record. But I do have a feeling that in 2020 we won't have excellent candidates, so that means that I will likely support O'Rourke or someone like him.
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The challenge is every candidate will have big money support both directly and indirectly. Your reaction to CNN reporting on Harris illustrates why. All it took to turn you off of her as a potential candidate, even making you hostile to her, was an article that pushed a particular button of yours. Money in politics is about ad revenue and ads work best that discourage voters from voting for someone more than they give you a reason to vote for someone.

Want to do something to help get money out of politics? Be an informed voter who isn't manipulated easily by political advertising.

Along those lines, what do you know about the potential pool of candidates in relation to the primary issues you listed above including Harris?
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honorentheos wrote:Want to do something to help get money out of politics? Be an informed voter who isn't manipulated easily by political advertising.


I will try.
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EAllusion wrote: she is popular in California


The first Des Moines Register/CNN/Mediacom survey before the 2020 caucuses shows Biden beginning a potential bid at 32 percent in Iowa, more than a dozen points ahead of the second-place candidate, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders. The 2016 runner-up for the nomination is at 19 percent.

Outgoing Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke, who lost a Senate race last month, is in third place, at 11 percent. Slightly behind him are Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren at 8 percent, and California Sen. Kamala Harris at 5 percent


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/ ... ts-1066661

I don't see Kamala Harris as the front runner.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
The first Des Moines Register/CNN/Mediacom survey before the 2020 caucuses shows Biden beginning a potential bid at 32 percent in Iowa, more than a dozen points ahead of the second-place candidate, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders. The 2016 runner-up for the nomination is at 19 percent.

Outgoing Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke, who lost a Senate race last month, is in third place, at 11 percent. Slightly behind him are Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren at 8 percent, and California Sen. Kamala Harris at 5 percent


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/ ... ts-1066661

I don't see Kamala Harris as the front runner.

She has no chance....none.

I find the list here interesting inasmuch as it reflects an unimaginative DNC that seems to think their old way is still the good way. Odd strategy, but a certain victory for any Republican in 2020.
Do Democrats currently have no one bona fide candidate for 2020?
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Re: Thank You CNN

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I see Senator Sherrod Brown as someone who could bridge the two wings of the party, focus the discussion on economic issues that unite both urban and rural voters, and has a record on key progressive issues that should keep the Bernie burnout types from revolting. Plus, he'd help bring home Ohio.

ETA: found an article that helps articulate why.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/ ... mp-1012151
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