Jussie Smollett: great example of supply v demand

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3 ... 05#p898905

Lots of Marxists endorse UBI. Marxian economics isn't uniform in concept nor practice, but I feel comfortable calling a spade a spade on this one. They will, of course, deny it or attempt to parse the point out into irrelevancy, but they're clearly very hard Left economically.

- Doc

It's not just Marxists, and eventually all labor will be done by machines.

You think so? Maybe we can get some Soma to pass the time.

- Doc

[_Themis]

You think so? Maybe we can get some Soma to pass the time.

- Doc

Eventually yes. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but things like A.I. and robotics will eventually outstrip human capability, so it will then be down to who is cheaper.

Or maybe combing them with humans.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Well. Before that happens just remember right now UBI in theory is on the left, and UBI in practice is on the right:



- Doc

[_Kevin Graham]

KG, I see you're missing the point entirely. Feel free to parse out one example or another to your heart's content, but the point remains. There is an inordinate amount of Liberal bias in the media, and as a result the AM radio jocks and blogs have filled a vacuum. Perhaps people have naturally balanced the media out in their own way, which now that I'm typing this out I think is probably the case.

I can also see in you, Analytics, and Canpakes the same kind of reaction I see in Ceeboo, Bach, and Subgenius when the reporting goes the other way. In other words, if something chaffes your political sensibilities, then you'll start going into spin mode or arguing away the point by focusing on a diversionary tactic, whataboutism, or ad hominem.

This should actually give you pause, but I realize who I'm talking to and that's a virtual impossibility because you're locked into your mindset.

- Doc

You're complaining about media bias on the left and pointing to stories they ignore as your pfoof, and when I demonstrate why these stories aren't worth focusing on you tell me I missed the point that the media is biased, and that I'm too locked into a mindset to understand it. wtf.

Ok.

Meanwhile, you're still referencing bogus stories and doing the same crap you complain about with the Sandmann fiasco by hyping a short video clip with no context, passing judgment on the media, and then declaring "hypocrisy for all" as if it applies to everyone but you.

[_Kevin Graham]

200-300 years from now UBI and more Socialism will be the only way humanity can survive. Might as well get a jump start on it.

[_Res Ipsa]

200-300 years from now UBI and more Socialism will be the only way humanity can survive. Might as well get a jump start on it.

Kevin, you think the government should take ownership of the steel industry? Car industry? Banking?

[_Kevin Graham]

200-300 years from now UBI and more Socialism will be the only way humanity can survive. Might as well get a jump start on it.

Kevin, you think the government should take ownership of the steel industry? Car industry? Banking?

In 300 years there will be no car or steel industry. Workers will be replaced by automation, which as been happening for many decades already. At some point the only job left will be for computer programming, and that will last as long as it takes for companies to figure out how to get computers to program themselves. With no jobs available, there is no need for workers. So what happens to a planet with no jobs that will likely have 100 billion people in 300 years?

[_Res Ipsa]

Even if an industry is fully automated, it’s an industry. I’m asking whether you favor government ownership of all industry or just some.

[_EAllusion]

My politics are typically classified as center-right. If that seems "Marxist" to you, you're so far right wing that you're in the part of the spectrum that looks an awful lot like its left-wing counterpart.

UBI is supported across the economic spectrum and I've repeatedly noted that it is a fairly popular viewpoint within modern libertarian circles. In the specific quote you linked, I correctly pointed out that Richard Nixon was an advocate of it at one point. You know, Richard Nixon - noted Marxist. If you start calling people like Charles Murray "Marxists" maybe you need to consider that you haven't any clue what you are talking about.

[_Themis]

Even if an industry is fully automated, it’s an industry. I’m asking whether you favor government ownership of all industry or just some.

Under what conditions? One where lots of human labor is needed or one where no human labor is needed because machines do it all better and cheaper?