Kevin Graham wrote:Yes, especially now that you've come onto the scene. The ultra Conservative "Christian" who swears he will vote for the lewd narcissist who mocks military heroes, the disabled, women, minorities, etc. The fornicator, the liar, the career cheat, criminal, narcissist etc. simply because he believes Jesus wants him to, and God works in mysterious ways.
Intellectuals who like to disparage blue collar types who support Trump are spot on with many points, not all, with regard to their observations about Trump, the GOP, and Trump supporters; they're also incredibly blind to their own faults as viewed by the opposition (killing future humans via abortion, etc.). That's just a gulf that will never be bridged by the Left and Right so it leads to a lot of frustration. That's understandable.
I think the problem is probably arrogance, and perhaps a lack of wisdom. We all suffer from that, but the ego doesn't allow for a genuine introspection of the self and it certainly blocks humility which is fundamental when attempting to build a coalition so we can govern ourselves without the system devolving into violence.
So. I find it interesting how much people bristle when they're grouped into a sweeping generalization by the opposition, yet they do the same exact thing without a hint of irony. It's pretty fascinating, frankly.
When the intellectuals disparage the working class, the vaunted struggling proletariat, the idealized laborer of Leftist mythos, they kind of show their true colors. Their arrogance, if they could set it aside (it's not happening, by the way), would probably find a nice resolution between blue and white collar idealism, and we could move forward a little more unified. There IS a reason why Jesus was a carpenter, by the way. God incarnate, all-knowing deity, took up the mortal coil to show us humility, to show us bridge building, and took up a line of work that is, in of itself, honest work because if you're a worthless carpenter it shows immediately. There's something about being a carpenter, someone who builds stuff, that is transparent and honest. I think if God exists, and He manifested himself as a carpenter, there's probably a lesson there, a nice metaphor to be incorporated into our ethos.
Anyway. I think intellectuals tend to overcompensate for their lack of traits that make them competitive, holistically, with various things in the real world - sexual strategy, social networking, a viable skill set, athleticism, aesthete, whatever. Being a one-trick pony is frustrating because it generally doesn't work out well for you in the real world, and bitterness can set in pretty easily. Just because you're smart, doesn't make you valued, wise, or useful and that's probably a cause for a lot of the consternation we see these days within public discourse.
The Left and the Right ought to be careful about marginalizing the opposing 45% of the population through mischaracterization, outright slander, and a strategy of constant, unrelenting attacks. These things tend to come to a head, and we're just now starting to see the rhetoric amping up to a psychosis that leads, inevitably, to violence.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:If I had to guess at what's going on it's this:
Intellectuals who like to disparage blue collar types who support Trump are spot on with many points, not all, with regard to their observations about Trump, the GOP, and Trump supporters; they're also incredibly blind to their own faults as viewed by the opposition (killing future humans via abortion, etc.). That's just a gulf that will never be bridged by the Left and Right so it leads to a lot of frustration. That's understandable.
I think the problem is probably arrogance, and perhaps a lack of wisdom. We all suffer from that, but the ego doesn't allow for a genuine introspection of the self and it certainly blocks humility which is fundamental when attempting to build a coalition so we can govern ourselves without the system devolving into violence.
So. I find it interesting how much people bristle when they're grouped into a sweeping generalization by the opposition, yet they do the same exact thing without a hint of irony. It's pretty fascinating, frankly.
When the intellectuals disparage the working class, the vaunted struggling proletariat, the idealized laborer of Leftist mythos, they kind of show their true colors. Their arrogance, if they could set it aside (it's not happening, by the way), would probably find a nice resolution between blue and white collar idealism, and we could move forward a little more unified. There IS a reason why Jesus was a carpenter, by the way. God incarnate, all-knowing deity, took up the mortal coil to show us humility, to show us bridge building, and took up a line of work that is, in of itself, honest work because if you're a worthless carpenter it shows immediately. There's something about being a carpenter, someone who builds stuff, that is transparent and honest. I think if God exists, and He manifested himself as a carpenter, there's probably a lesson there, a nice metaphor to be incorporated into our ethos.
Anyway. I think intellectuals tend to overcompensate for their lack of traits that make them competitive, holistically, with various things in the real world - sexual strategy, social networking, a viable skill set, athleticism, aesthete, whatever. Being a one-trick pony is frustrating because it generally doesn't work out well for you in the real world, and bitterness can set in pretty easily. Just because you're smart, doesn't make you valued, wise, or useful and that's probably a cause for a lot of the consternation we see these days within public discourse.
The Left and the Right ought to be careful about marginalizing the opposing 45% of the population through mischaracterization, outright slander, and a strategy of constant, unrelenting attacks. These things tend to come to a head, and we're just now starting to see the rhetoric amping up to a psychosis that leads, inevitably, to violence.
- Doc
You write several paragraphs arguing that intellectuals basically are people who conform to a socially ineffectual / condescending / nebbish stereotype based on nothing, then end with complaint about making generalizations about a population that mischaracterizes them.
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
