Mueller dissatisfied with Barr's 4 page memo

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Res Ipsa wrote:So — Hillary invented Russiagate right after she lost even though, according to the articles you linked to, the DNC claimed that Russia hacked its servers five months before the election. Yeah, thst’s The ticket.


Clinton was talking about Russia and Trump and trying to marry the two right after the DNC emails came out in July, 2016. After she lost she huddled with her advisors to blame Russia for the loss and then her cohorts pushed the story as a way to handcuff Trump. If you remember, there was talk that the electoral college members should go against the vote and vote in Hillary regardless .... because he was obviously a Putin puppet.

Anyway, where are those walls that were closing in? Come on, how about we move on and fight Trump on the issues and let Clinton go out to wherever neocons go after their usefulness is over? She was a horrible wallstreet candidate that people hated. That's why she lost and Russia had nothing to do with it.
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Res Ipsa wrote:So — Hillary invented Russiagate right after she lost even though, according to the articles you linked to, the DNC claimed that Russia hacked its servers five months before the election. Yeah, thst’s The ticket.

Not only that, but the Democrats apparently steered the outcome of the Republican nomination, by using their secret mind control powers to get registered Republican voters - who would never vote for a Democratic ticket candidate anyway, nor could do so in a primary - to cast their votes for Trump as their nominee. : D
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Exiled wrote:That's why she lost and Russia had nothing to do with it.

I feel a burning in my bosom this testimony is true.

Could be heartburn though.

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Perfume on my Mind wrote:
Exiled wrote:That's why she lost and Russia had nothing to do with it.

I feel a burning in my bosom this testimony is true.

Could be heartburn though.

Feelings... nothing more than... feelings...


It’s so easy to claim stuff when you ignore the evidence.
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Re: Mueller dissatisfied with Barr's 4 page memo

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Exiled hates Hillary Clinton and is still butt hurt that she beat Bernie. Putin, Russia and Trump absolutely hate HC as well so this is just a classic examples of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

The irony is that he's trying to say HC is making up the Russia thing as an excuse when in reality he is the one who makes excuses for Bernie losing to HC.

He keeps making idiotic claims like "Hillary consulted with her advisors" after the loss and decided to propagate a Russia myth. In reality, I don't recall HC saying anything like that at all. I seem to remember her falling off the face of the earth.

What HC said about Trump and Russia during the presidential debate turned out to be prophetic. She should at least get some credit for seeing what was obvious to most other people who weren't blinded by the "fake news" mantra.
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Kevin Graham wrote:He keeps making idiotic claims like "Hillary consulted with her advisors" after the loss and decided to propagate a Russia myth.

Well, what's incredibly stupid about this claim is the idea that Hillary not only conceived the plan, but got all of the US intelligence agencies on her side to help in her conspiracy. She also made Trump say all the idiotic things he's said in support of Russia, including his shameful behavior in Helsinki, and made everyone in his campaign have various contacts with Russians. She's like, a mastermind. If she pulled that off, damn, she should have been president.

It takes a special kind of dense.
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Perfume on my Mind wrote:Well, what's incredibly stupid about this claim is the idea that Hillary not only conceived the plan, but got all of the US intelligence agencies on her side to help in her conspiracy.


US law enforcement that is overwhelmingly conservative, including elements that specifically had violated policy guidelines and ethical norms to torpedo her candidacy in the actual election.
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Judd Legum's livetweeting of the Barr's lieathon is something to behold all in one spot.

Anyway, the universe in which every major Democratic opponent to Trump is investigated by the government is a little easier to imagine now. Because remember, politically motivated investigations are only bad when they are aimed at Republicans. Scratch that. Erase "politically motivated."
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EAllusion wrote:
Perfume on my Mind wrote:Well, what's incredibly stupid about this claim is the idea that Hillary not only conceived the plan, but got all of the US intelligence agencies on her side to help in her conspiracy.


US law enforcement that is overwhelmingly conservative, including elements that specifically had violated policy guidelines and ethical norms to torpedo her candidacy in the actual election.


They are also very pro-war and want to continue the billions being funneled through the military industrial complex. How about consider this author's take on why the Mueller investigation ended now. As shown by the recent Barr dust-up in the Senate, the Democrats surely wanted Mueller to continue until he found more than he did. Yet, the investigation stopped.

http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/tit-for-tat-why-did-mueller-let-trump-off-the-hook/

Trump isn't pushing his let's bring the troops home rhetoric any longer and seems to have fallen in line with the neocon agenda. So, no more mccarthyite smears are necessary.
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Re: Mueller dissatisfied with Barr's 4 page memo

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Reading through this thread has led me to wonder if there is a subfield in political science devoted to the study of the devolution of political ideological thought running proportionate to a rise in acceptance and popularity?

Meaning, beginning with Ron Paul's presidential attempts I found popular libertarian expressions to be revolting while seeing value in the underlying political thinking found in more developed theories behind libertarianism. The same could be said of conservatism, liberalism, progressivism, and whatever the final term will be for the mash-up of ideas swirling around the Democrat Party's ever expanding swarm of Presidential candidates. Popular expressions of core political thinking seems to be more than just simplified, but lacking in fundamental aspects of the underlying theories that give them meaning. I see that here in Exiled's posts but it's hardly unique and I'm sure I'm guilty of it in my own way as well.

If the laws of entropy apply to political theory in a way that suggests underlying organization and complexity will almost always move away from structured, rigorous organized thought towards simplicity and bite-sized slogans that just "feel" right to people, what are the implications? I'm genuinely curious now.
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