Exiled wrote:Seems like Clinton gained in popularity throughout that one. Why the Republicans pushed that is beyond me.
I hear you on that. It's like they ignored their own inner voice. Select Democrats had enjoyed receiving head from their female Congressional pages and select Republicans had enjoyed giving head to their male Congressional pages for quite some time. To look askew at President Clinton for getting head from an aid was, well you know.
by the way, even though he hasn't come out with full throated support for impeachment, Mitt Romney deserves recognition for at least not towing the party line, and not staying silent. Good on him. I don't have any real optimism for it, but it might be the start of something.
Yes, I know he's not up for re-election next cycle and he's safe for another 4 years, but still. If the GOP Senate is going to break from Trump, it has to start somewhere.
I'm certainly no fan of Romney, but he would be an incredible upgrade (for President) from what we have now. Go Mitt go.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
I will never vote for Trump, and I believe that Trump should be impeached and removed from office. However, I will still likely vote for a few Republicans in the future. During last year's election, I voted Democrat for Senate and SofS while I voted Republican for Governor and Attorney General.
"And I've said it before, you want to know what Joseph Smith looked like in Nauvoo, just look at Trump." - Fence Sitter
Brackite wrote:I will never vote for Trump, and I believe that Trump should be impeached and removed from office. However, I will still likely vote for a few Republicans in the future. During last year's election, I voted Democrat for Senate and SofS while I voted Republican for Governor and Attorney General.
I think it's always reasonable to vote for the candidate you think would do the best job.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Is it a mystery to posters here why Ceeboo would be astonished to see Democrats claim a moral high ground? Us Liberals make it legal to kill future humans, we think it’s fine and dandy to do drugs, want to heavily regulate guns, we’re generally ok with LGTBQ+ types which can lead to uncomfortable things too numerous to list, we tend to be more agnostic and atheist while being generally private about belief if we’re religious, we take money from net contributors and give money to net consumers, have allowed tens of millions of illegal aliens to stay in country, and about a dozen other grievances I’m sure I missed.
What bothers me is while it’s clearly apparent to someone like him why we’re problematic, they tend to be rather tolerant of degenerate and venal behavior, too. They just don’t care. I’m not sure they care because they’ve convinced themselves their way leads to a greater good.
Well. Whatever. This is why the 1st amendment exists, so we can debate these issues.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Res Ipsa wrote:When I saw how the Republican Party reacted to Obama’s election, I concluded the party had lost its moral compass and had thrown any semblance of loyalty to the country out the window in favor of winning at any cost.
I actually think it goes back a bit further, to Newt Gingrich. I think you find slogans eclipsing ideology beginning with Newt.
"The great problem of any civilization is how to rejuvenate itself without rebarbarization." - Will Durant "We've kept more promises than we've even made" - Donald Trump "Of what meaning is the world without mind? The question cannot exist." - Edwin Land
Res Ipsa wrote:When I saw how the Republican Party reacted to Obama’s election, I concluded the party had lost its moral compass and had thrown any semblance of loyalty to the country out the window in favor of winning at any cost.
I actually think it goes back a bit further, to Newt Gingrich. I think you find slogans eclipsing ideology beginning with Newt.
Res Ipsa wrote:When I saw how the Republican Party reacted to Obama’s election, I concluded the party had lost its moral compass and had thrown any semblance of loyalty to the country out the window in favor of winning at any cost.
I actually think it goes back a bit further, to Newt Gingrich. I think you find slogans eclipsing ideology beginning with Newt.
I agree. That’s when I started to wonder about the party. I said never again after the first Obama election.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951