Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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Re: Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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honorentheos wrote:
subgenius wrote:And given the information you have available, for what reason do you believe that Hunter was hired to serve on that board?

Because he has a last name he could market and leveraged it.

OH! You just assume that means Joe Biden was in on the scheme to use his office to profit off his kids racking up deals like that. My my, where do you get such ideas?

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/0 ... interests/

Funny thing is, at least Biden has made his tax records public.

On the other hand, the current Prez - the one who has hired actual convicts and corrupt players with a history of involvement in the Ukraine - fights tooth and nail to keep his own private.
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Re: Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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canpakes wrote:
1)Yes, a Biden is a founding partner in Rosemont...that is a given, again did you follow the impeachment at all.

2)Yes, because you apparently did not understand what the article said in your post...it was not "only two payments..."

3) click the link and look at the yellow stamp in the corner...it is safe to say the statements are real and true.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... sting.html

Still waiting for how any of this translates into ‘corruption’, even given that you cannot keep your facts straight.

To be fair, Rosemont Seneca probably was involved in moving corrupt money around. The issue is folks like Markk keep wanting to see this hung around Joe Biden's neck. Hunter, John Kerry's stepson, and Devin Archer probably were using their claims to be connected in Washington to attract investors and contracts, and they had zero scupples when it came to vetting if those other players were dirty or not. There is certainly corruption to be found when one goes digging into Relief Society.

Just not corruption involving Joe Biden abusing his office to profit Relief Society.

Now, when it comes to Trump and his companies OTOH...but we won't see Markk or subbie complain about that because they are getting things done, pwning libs, and don't believe in evolution either so they are just fine doing what they do.
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Re: Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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Markk wrote:That is such a cop out Honor.

This is exactly what I mean when I say you (and others here) run when the talking points come to a dead end.

The information I provided is real. Two payments each month went to this account from Burisma. If it was not Salary, then what was it Honor?


honorentheos wrote:LOL...I thought you were a contractor and know just because money is paid to a company doesn't make it the amount being paid to an individual associated with the company...but I guess that's the kind of biased, Democrat hating we have to expect from you. Besides, you're just mad Biden was actually fighting corruption when Trump just talked about it. Oh well guess you can't be objective or have a real discussion. At least I acknowledge I'm not giving a piss buckets full of effort in discussions with you anymore where you pretend you are serious but clearly ain't. Too bad Markk, guess you weren't up to the task here. LOL!


Well, LLC's are set up to protect private property/liability and private debt. Money directed to a LLC can be withdrawn in many different ways, other than a direct cash withdraw, like company credit cards.

A contractor (using your example) can draw a salary of say 50K a year, and live off a company card, and have the corporation, company, or LLC pay for just about everything else.

Each partner would have a credit card to basically live off. They would also charge fight expenses, leased cars, office, and marketing expenses...etc...the limits are really large. If you go the the like I provided...go to the back page summary, and see the American Express payments that Rosmont payed out. Start at page 223.

Hunter could go to Hawaii for 3 weeks, claim it was a business trip, and live of his Amex card.

Also, all monies that were transferred to other LLC's, would need to be tracked out and traced. There are debits to other LLC's, investment groups, and financial groups.

You can have a home office, and pay your utility bills on the card, fuel and even food. You can purchase business clothing (suits) etc.

The reason beyond liability is taxes Honor. If Hunter were to get the 83k paid directly to him, two things, he would be taxed on the full 83k as income. second, it appears that the payments were paid to this partnership LLC, to help hide the money trial.

As we know the saying goes "follow the money"....?

Have you, or do you intend to review the banking statements. Here it is once more

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... sting.html
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Re: Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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LOL...I pointed out up thread to Icarus there were payments from Burisma beyond the $83,333.33 monthly payments which hasn't been mentioned in this thread...but since you arent objective enough to be able to understand what that means keep asking questions showing you just run from legitimate discussion. You can leave the Church but you can't leave your Mormonism behind...LOL!
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Re: Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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honorentheos wrote:To be serious with people not naked Markk, there were a lot of payments to Rosemont besides the monthly amounts of $83,333.33. Those occure monthly, but there are additional varied payments and no one has publicly demonstrated what they were for or to what aim. Rosemont Seneca is pretty sketchy. Hunter Biden is legitimately and albatross looking for a neck. But it has nothing to do with Joe Biden asserting Shokin needed let go if the Ukraine was to receive the loan guarantees so it's all a dumb game of hang the albatross in the opponent being played by conservative dumbasses. Like Markk.

Speaking of, because I know you read this Markk, LOL! You don't even understand it I bet but think I'm admitting the thing you claim is true bu acknowledging Hunter is shady therefore Joe Biden is guilty and Trump was acquitted and he is getting things done like having his knob polished by Fox and Friends and supporters like you. LOL!


Honer,

Well, those other funds have been discussed, in some of the links I have provided in the other thread and here on this thread

viewtopic.php?p=1218104#p1218104
BHR received over 3 million dollars in a year and a half. Have you watched the videos yet? I also provided you the link for the bank statements, that allowed you to even understand, and kind of admit, there is reason for concern here. Even if only with Rosemont, BHR. There re also other LLC's (we haven't got into yet). That is a good step forward, we will get to Joe's part of all this as we move forward. .

The others funds, besides the 83K deposits are generally said to be"consulting fees." However, BHR is a LLC that Rosemont joined forces with the Chinese Government (Bank of China), and is a investment firm, not a consultation firm. This just adds to the mess.

It's clear that the consistent two monthly payments of 83 K, is most likely their base salary, and as far as I know was not disputed by the left's impeachment team as such. If this iis not base salary, what is it?

The other monies are who knows what. Why would one pay a salary to person, and then pay them extra to consult, especially as a board member? Again more reasons for concern, and more reasons to warrant an investigation. At any rate the 50K number does not stand at all, and is just how much Hunter withdrew from BHR in the way of cash, from the 3 million plus Burisma deposited into BHR.

You don't even understand it I bet but think I'm admitting the thing you claim is true bu acknowledging Hunter is shady therefore Joe Biden is guilty


What real evidence do you have that Joe is clean in all this, and knew nothing, or received nothing, or was not protecting his son by firing Shokin? As I wrote we will see a pattern develop as we get into Joe's part is all this.

You don't have to answer that last question yet, lets get through your three assertions first. One down, two to go.

The next on the list "Lawyer v board member?"

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Hunter Biden's chance of impeachment by the Senate will greatly increase if they refuse to hear any evidence.
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I wonder if Canpakes asks the same questions that’ll go unanswered for, I dunno, thirty pages, if we’ll bet another thread on some other topic that’ll detract from this unanswered question:

Why didn’t Trump have the DoJ or State department conduct an investigation into the Bidens’ activities?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Why didn’t Trump have the DoJ or State department conduct an investigation into the Bidens’ activities?


I think this is primarily a theological question - indeed, what we might call a Trumpodicy related problem.

How, if Trump is morally perfect, all knowing and endowed with mighty powers, can he fail to punish the wicked Bidens by using his powers to launch a DoJ investigation?

Answer: Because if he did that, he would deny your agency, and block your free exercise of faith in his prophet, Markk.

Read Markk's writings daily, and watch all the videos he posts with your family. Tweet to Trump to give you a testimony of the truth of the prophet's teachings, and pay your tithings to his re-election campaign. Then launch your own investigation. That is the President's way.
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Just an incredible coincidence...



GOP chairman plans first subpoena in Burisma, Biden probe

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/485 ... iden-probe
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Re: Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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Well...in the other thread I have stated many times these two senators have been looking into this, it is part of my answer to the mystery question.

Also part of my answer is that the DoJ is looking into this, and open to receiving information on this, yet taking it slow due to the Ukraine's history of corruption.

But ironically they keep asking the same question...even though what they have been asking has been going on for months.

This is nothing new, it is just progressing.
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