Police use of deadly force is extremely rare. The bankers kill way more innocent people.

[_ajax18]

No my argument is that there is no way the police can arrest someone determined to elude justice that everyone will be happy with. It's inevitably dangerous.

[_Themis]

Look, I already stated that Trump said this shooting was disturbing. I totally don't think he should have been shot.

ok you agree with everyone here that the officer was wrong to shoot an unarmed man fleeing police. Should he not face some punishment for doing so?

But when if ever are black people going to start taking some personal responsibility for things escalating by not resisting arrest and trying to run and fight the cops? Maybe a good way to change the world would be to set a proper example and create a better reputation for your race? No, can't do that. Just burn it down?

Because white people are so responsible we cannot find any examples of them resisting arrest and running from people? This is about as racist as you can get Ajax. It's also not true. I suspect you don't really understand the problems because you are so racist. I bet you could not even describe what the issues are with the black lives matter movement.

I've tried making the world adjust to me. It doesn't work. And it's not going to work for the protesters either.

And the world is much better off they haven't adjusted to your racist thinking.

[_Themis]

No my argument is that there is no way the police can arrest someone determined to elude justice that everyone will be happy with. It's inevitably dangerous.

Yet police all over the world are bringing in fleeing suspects without shooting them.

[_EAllusion]

I don't think this video is as egregious as a lot of cases because at least this can be written off to an extreme reaction in a understandably panicked situation rather than just flat malfeasance that you often see in the stories that get national attention. While the force was excessive to the risk and tragic, at least the decision making is understandably errant.

What strikes me is how the officers were handling things fine until a physical confrontation broke out, at which point they lost all sense of how to react. This is where training that focuses on how to deescalate after things get physical might actually produce better outcomes.

I don't know what training these officers received, but over the past couple of decades, it's become common for police to be trained to be proactively aggressive for their safety. They're often shown famous videos of police being murdered in situations that quickly spiraled out of control to inculcate in them a sense of vigilance against constant danger. This is all kinds of wrong, both as a matter of statistics and as a harm reduction strategy, but it's quite standard. If these officers received that training, it becomes even easier to see why they might get an itchy trigger finger once the adrenaline gets going.

[_Icarus]

This reminds me of my favorite tweet this week:

alex picciarelli
@alexpicciarelli

Make the police academy a 4 year program and I bet we get rid of a lot of these assholes. I gotta go to school for 8 years to understand the law enough to practice it but it takes 6 months to learn it enough to enforce it? “F” outta here

https://Twitter.com/alexpicciarelli/sta ... 41312?s=20

[_Res Ipsa]

Don’t know where he lives, but law school is three years.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Resisted arrest? Kill them all.

https://ibb.co/SJ7xShq

- Doc

[_Res Ipsa]

Since the use of body cams began, I've seen too many examples when officers start yelling "stop resisting" the second they touch the suspect. That leads suspects to reflexively try to explain that they aren't resisting, which then leads to more accusations of resisting. It's a BS tactic that I see way too much of.

[_Icarus]

Don’t know where he lives, but law school is three years.

He's on the Vinnie Gambini program.

[_EAllusion]

Since the use of body cams began, I've seen too many examples when officers start yelling "stop resisting" the second they touch the suspect. That leads suspects to reflexively try to explain that they aren't resisting, which then leads to more accusations of resisting. It's a ____ tactic that I see way too much of.

This is part of a culture where police know the "magic words" to say to justify their actions if they are reviewed. It's why so many people who are shot dead were making furtive moves towards their waistband in the official report. This is a consequence of court decisions filtering down into police tactics to cover their ass.