Biden needs to step aside

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Biden said "2025". LMBO.
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Binger wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:26 pm
Project 2025 will ban movie sequels and the Styx/Foreigner tour. TRUE As Heck Gosh.
Obama will outlaw bacon. Republicans will say anything.

Project 2025 is a blueprint for dismantling the American govt and instituting a lifelong dictatorship in its place.
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Gadianton wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:00 am
He stumbled a bit, but, his answer was totally coherent
For the most part, I agree with you. (A few gaffes like mentioning VP Trump when referring to Harris)

Unfortunately (or fortunately to some I suppose) you can't un-ring the debate bell that rang and rang and rang. Can't do it.

Personally, I simply can't explain how this could have been the same person as the one on the debate stage. Bizarre.
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ceeboo wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:03 am
Gadianton wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:00 am
He stumbled a bit, but, his answer was totally coherent
For the most part, I agree with you. (A few gaffes like mentioning VP Trump when referring to Harris)

Unfortunately (or fortunately to some I suppose) you can't un-ring the debate bell that rang and rang and rang. Can't do it.

Personally, I simply can't explain how this could have been the same person as the one on the debate stage. Bizarre.
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Edit: For what it’s worth, after this last speech I think he should step aside. If he’s this muddled in his thinking and speech now, he’ll be unfit by the end of his presidency. This stuff doesn’t get better, and he’s degrading quickly.

And to be fair, I think Trump should be set aside for the same reasons, outside of his persistent intemperance.
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Gadianton wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:00 am
I can't sit through political debates and lectures, but I saw that Biden is holding a press conference (it is going on right and not just a recording, right? lol) and so I listened to one question and Biden's answer to it. The question was something like, "how would you view your legacy if you ignored the calls of your friends to step down and therefore lost to Trump, putting the nation in peril?"

His answer was dead on, "This isn't about my legacy..." He went on for several minutes to explain his accomplishments and plans for his next term. Do I agree with his claimed successes? Unsure. I'd have to do more research. It's just, like I've said, the only issue is keeping Trump out; if Nikki Haley were running, I might have to take the time to look at both platforms.

His general plan at least in ideal, to even the playing field between workers and corporations, is NOT a bad idea. His point that trickle-down economics has failed is absolutely correct. He stumbled a bit, but, his answer was totally coherent, filled with numbers and facts and stuck to the point. I'm telling you, that answer that he gave, Donald Trump wouldn't have been able to read from a teleprompter. Has Trump ever spoken on point about something for two minutes and provided specific facts that weren't just made up?
Thanks, Gad. Sounds like he is OK but not ideal. I can accept that. When the other option is a convicted felon, an insurrectionist, and a fraud, I’ll take less than ideal. Everything I have seen of the plans for Trump’s second term points to disaster. He belonged in prison before his first term. He belongs there even more now. I’ll take fuzzy but experienced Biden over Trump any day.
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Binger wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:34 pm
The graphic was posted by ding dong Robert Reich. https://x.com/RBReich/status/1810361996472205549

As indicated in a previously posted link, all claims were determined to be false, except these:
Additional tax breaks for corporations and the 1 percent: True
Eliminate the Department of Education: True
Use public taxpayer money for private religious schools: True
Increase Arctic drilling: True
Deregulate big business and the oil industry: True
Promote and expedite capital punishment: True
Ban transgender service in the military: True
Additional tax breaks may include additional taxes or different taxes. Not sure, but one line certainly ain't clear. The DOE can go to hell. I am surprised these uniparty folks included that. Can a religious school be Muslim? Sweet. This goes to voucher arguments so whatever. Drill, baby. Drill, drill, drill, drill and drill, baby. 20 years on death row is weird. And the transsoldier thing? I have no idea what the hell that is about. Reminds of when Clinton went don't ask don't tell on the Village People et al and Obama and Biden were adamantly against gay marriage for white and non-white people. Nobody cares what a politician thinks on these topics, they are all just pandering.
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Morley wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 2:32 am

You’d be wrong. Some of us do care.
I will give you the benefit of doubt. Though, I have seen no evidence that people care. What I see is people saying the politician on their team is right, no matter what, without caring one gosh darn really about the topic. Even I voted for Obama, for example, and that dude was very against gay marriage and Biden, his running mate, was even more vocal about being against it. But it did not change my vote and I wouldn't have cared if Romney was for gay marriage.
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Project 2025
Project 2025 wrote:Cornhole games must be renamed “Butthole”
I heard too Saturday Night Live will be required to be funny but that is only partly false.
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America is willing to end its democracy and submit itself to a fascist-like dictatorship because Biden sounded sluggish due to age. I don't suppose an emotional plea for retired people to keep their Social Security and Medicare will make a difference.

Sooner or later you will tire of saluting Trump and find you can no longer do anything about it. That was a sad lesson the German people learned before unleashing their uber alles upon the world.
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I always feel like Biden needs some time to really get warmed up and rolling. I'd hope they already are, but I feel like if his campaign would just do a few questions to him off stage he might come out of the gate hotter. Just something seems off in their preparation work.
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