Westridge & Other Schools(Formerly LDS Perceptions thread)

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Re: LDS Perception of Family Humiliation-Eric's Original Post

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Eric wrote:This has gone on long enough. I can't bring myself to entertain any more of it. Hopefully Liz and others will understand why I absolutely disregard Jersey Girl's "expert opinions" after reading this post, why I call her posts what they are. That's all I can really hope for. Most of what she says can be verifiably falsified within this long thread of posts.



Would that be in much the same way that I argued for a literal flood?
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Re: LDS Perception of Family Humiliation-Eric's Original Post

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Eric wrote:As far as what Jersey Girl has expertly contributed, well, I saw that you posted a license # of West Ridge Academy. Thanks, but this information was already posted on January 5, 2008 in response to an article that I wrote. What Jersey Girl is saying regarding Residential Treatment Facilities isn't worth reading. Why?

Because West Ridge "Academy" is not officially licensed as a Residential Treatment Facility.



1. It's not? What's West Ridge "Academy" officially licensed as?

2. What is it that I've said regarding residential treatment facilities?
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Re: LDS Perception of Family Humiliation-Eric's Original Post

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Eric wrote:For instance - I said that boys were forced to carry rocks around all day, moving them from pile to pile. Then, another boy (who I don't know) said the same thing in an interview on YouTube. Then, I found an actual photograph of the "new" work crew doing this exact activity!



Are you referring to the image that appears in the video on or around 2:50?

Eric...it is not dated, the faces of the boys cannot be seen. Unless you have another image that can be verified as being boys at the ranch who are currently doing the exact activity, it means nothing.

Don't you see that? For all we know, the image could be of any kids in yellow tee's, filmed anywhere at any time for a representation and not a currently dated, verfiable, photograph.

Do you not see that?

The image in the video says it was supplied courtesy of West Ridge Academy. When? Where? Is it dated? For all I know it's a photograph of boys building a fire ring! It tells me absolutely nothing.

You suggest that your credibility is challenged on this board. It is being challenged, by me at least, because the documentation that you've provided isn't documented and isn't verifiable.

You need to find some way, Eric, to DATE the photograph and I don't mean by setting the date stamp on a digital camera.

You don't want people to challenge your credibility, right? What would you rather have, Eric? People nodding their head in approval and kissing your butt or ignoring the obvious to make you feel good, while your butt is effectively twisting in the wind without verifiable documentation for your claims?

Is that what you want? You won't get it from me.

Ever.
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Re: LDS Perception of Family Humiliation-Eric's Original Post

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Not to worry, I'll get through your post eventually.

Eric wrote:I said that West Ridge Academy gets all of its food donated by Deseret Industries. Later, I was able to get actual photographs from inside the Gulag's kitchen of food items from a staff member who still works there.



I used the link and saw the image. Again, where is your proof? The image you have posted is the front of a container of Deseret sausage. It doesn't show where it is. For all I know it's a photograph from someone's home.

When you make the claim that you have actual photographs from inside West Ridges' kitchen, we need to SEE that it's from inside the kitchen at West Ridge.

If you have other photographs that prove it's from inside the kitchen at West Ridge, why aren't you using them?

As a visitor to your website, I see no evidence that the container of Deseret sausage is INSIDE the kitchen at West Ridge or WHEN it was inside the kitchen at West Ridge.

Is there another link to the image that I haven't seen? If not, you have nothing to support your claim, Eric.
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Re: LDS Perception of Family Humiliation-Eric's Original Post

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I've purchased court records and posted the details of two separate legal cases involving West Ridge "Academy," one was a multi-million dollar lawsuit involving sexual abuse and molestation of a twelve year old boy.


Case names and case numbers? Your newsletter invites us to "check it out" but you don't provide cites.

Why is it necessary to use a photo of me and my wife as your avatar? She doesn't consent. That photo is nowhere public.
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Re: LDS Perception of Family Humiliation-Eric's Original Post

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Case names and case numbers?


Plaintiff: Tyler Elsey
Defendant: West Ridge Academy

Case Number: 2:2008cv00390
Filed: May 15, 2008

Summary

Plaintiff: John A. Rhodes
Defendant: Children and Youth Services, Inc., a Utah non-profit corporation dba Utah Boys Ranch


Case Number: 2:03cv00581
Filed: June 30, 2003


Summary
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Re: LDS Perception of Family Humiliation-Eric's Original Post

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GoodK wrote:
Case names and case numbers?


Plaintiff: Tyler Elsey
Defendant: West Ridge Academy

Case Number: 2:2008cv00390
Filed: May 15, 2008

Plaintiff: John A. Rhodes
Defendant: Children and Youth Services, Inc., a Utah non-profit corporation dba Utah Boys Ranch


Case Number: 2:03cv00581
Filed: June 30, 2003


How is this relevant to getting West Ridge shut down? Where can I read a description of both cases? Got a link?

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Re: LDS Perception of Family Humiliation-Eric's Original Post

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What does this mean, crock?

Elsey v. West Ridge Academy
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Plaintiff: Tyler Elsey
Defendant: West Ridge Academy

Case Number: 2:2008cv00390
Filed: May 15, 2008

Court: Utah District Court
Office: P.I.: Other Office [ Court information ]
County: Salt Lake
Presiding Judge: Judge Dee Benson

Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Other Personal Injury
Cause: Diversity
Jurisdiction: Diversity
Jury Demanded By: 28:1441 Notice of Removal- Personal Injury

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Re: LDS Perception of Family Humiliation-Eric's Original Post

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Eric,

I swear. I opened the link to the summaries and at the bottom you supply this link:

http://www.courthousenews.com/

What am I supposed to find out by following that link?
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Re: LDS Perception of Family Humiliation-Eric's Original Post

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You can purchase the records yourself, online, or be happy with my summary.

I was asked for case numbers and I supplied them.
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