Fear of the Left . . .

[_subgenius]

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I'd be interested to know at which point in the above listing of propositions our views part company.

You parted with me at "A".

For anyone to posture with such a fantasy flies in the face of democracy itself. You are responsible for your vote and that is it...you do not owe any other citizen any regard on that matter...you are in now way obliged to be informed or go with your gut. And from there the whole point of a "representative" form of government is that the elected represent. A voter does not bear any responsibility for the victories or follies - that is the elected's responsibility. For example, if an elected official is caught smoking crack then that elected official goes to jail alone.

The only arguable responsibility for a citizen is to simply cast the vote.

You're feeble attempt to group-think the voting process is admirable, not novel, but admirable.

[Guest]

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[_Chap]

Maybe we could try to take this step by step? That way it will be clear where our views diverge, and why, and we might be able to understand one another even if we don't agree. So here are some propositions that you might or might not agree with:

A. The right to vote in a democracy comes with moral responsibilities. Thus one ought not to vote for a party or candidate without taking the time to learn about what policies they advocate and considering the likely impact of those policies on the country as a whole. Your fellow citizens have the right to expect that you will not use your vote without such due consideration, or simply to amuse yourself. (Of course the right to vote is not CONDITIONAL on the voter carrying out such civic responsibilities. However, one's continuing respect for a fellow-citizen might be so conditional.)

Are you with me there? ...

Could I just check with members of the board whether any major political thinker in the founding days of US constitutional practice ever actually opposed the ideas set out above, principally the notion that:

... one ought not to vote for a party or candidate without taking the time to learn about what policies they advocate and considering the likely impact of those policies on the country as a whole. Your fellow citizens have the right to expect that you will not use your vote without such due consideration, or simply to amuse yourself.

[_Some Schmo]

Foolery!

Unsupported Ceeboo assertion #4,876,562,857,009,256.

(You have to get your unsupported assertion count up in order to be a member in good standing of the GOC (i. e. Grand Ol' Cult)).

[_Maksutov]

Extremists:

[_EAllusion]

EAllusion: Encouraging dehumanizing racism seems like a good explanation for the huge increase in racist crimes we are seeing.

EAllusion dehumanizing White people into rabid racists and xenophobes seems like a good reason the Right fears the Left.

Doc: Cuck! Can't explain how anarcho-syndicalism creates a post-racial utopia, can you? This is why Trump won. How can someone not vote for white supremacists in the face of this? Someone fetch me my fainting couch.

Fixed it for you.

One will note how EAllusion keeps trying to shift the conversation away from the opening post to how White people are to blame, for, well, everything & has yet to offer any solution as to how socialist libertarianism could have prevented CA Hispanic deaths from reaching 2x that of Whites and how said policies would've prevented a back woman from braining 92-year-old Mexican in 2018.

- Doc

Why do you impute the actions of Donald Trump, Steven Miller, and other figures who have played a prominent role in stoking racial resentment onto all of white people? Seems really racist of you, which I suppose answers my question.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Why do you impute the actions of Donald Trump, Steven Miller, and other figures who have played a prominent role in stoking racial resentment onto all of white people? Seems really racist of you, which I suppose answers my question.

Why do you promote the failed policies of socialist libertarians, why do you embrace the murderous thug Stalin, why do you reject the words of Dr. King out of hand?

I'll remind the board once again ea has no answers that don't involve complaining and nothing more. He hates America, he's self-loathing, and he's perfectly emblematic of everything that's wrong with the Left. People in the Center and the Right would do well to think about putting people into power who think like him. It's only a matter of time that he fights so vigorously against your interests you have no place to call your home, your country, or even a life.

Granted, he does this from a deeply embedded pathos that probably has to do with personal insecurities, female rejection, and I'd guess childhood abuse, but that's his cross to bear. Our country shouldn't have to pay reparations because he's in possession of a damaged psyche.

- Doc

[_Chap]

Why do you impute the actions of Donald Trump, Steven Miller, and other figures who have played a prominent role in stoking racial resentment onto all of white people?

Yup, strange, isn't it?

I think he sees this trope as a rich vein of troll-food that it is his duty to mine to the last.

He used to talk about gardening once, If I recall correctly. That was quite interesting, and vaguely endearing.

[_EAllusion]

Socialist libertarian is a esoteric term to refer to a form of left-wing thinking in the neighborhood of Noam Chomsky. Noam Chomsky, it should be noted, has never gotten to see his overall policy preferences implemented and they're radically different than Stalinism. It's not an ideological area I agree with and my posting doesn't suggest otherwise. It doesn't produce pat answers on how to reduce the murder rate among specific racial subgroups, and even if it did, I wouldn't be any obligation to explain it since it has nothing to do with anything I said. My posting has absolutely nothing to do with the general murder rate of Hispanics in California in 2014. Rather I discussed the recent large increase of hate crimes in California in the past few years and said it was attributable to corresponding political movement that promotes racial resentment.

I know this is all trolling, and I'm sure you think it's fine Doc because, hey, you don't really think what you say. But really, it does reflect on your character.

[_Kishkumen]

I never quite understood the Doc-EA war.