B23 wrote:Your book by Jonah Goldberg is a joke hit piece of the type currently being produced for the culture warrior types to show how un-American the American Left is. The book argues that during WWI Wilson used the government to regulate so much of the US economy and of course continues on to Roosevelt and Clinton and every other Democrat and that those are trademarks of fascism. Leaving aside that [as shown below] fascism is a right wing endeavor and socialism is a left wing endeavor, what Goldberg fails to do is to show that this government intrusion into American life is a bipartisan issue, that Republicans have been just as willing to use the same government apparatus to their own ends. One sided and too far reaching to be good historical writing. Political punditry in the manner of anything written by Ann Coulter and the like.
Nope, you are wrong..... When it was republicans in power, it was usually Democrats who held the actual power in congress. Thus, you are confusing MANY issues. Government increases has almost always been Democrat's in Congress or as President. Look at all they did for the time they had the Presidency and Congress this last while, they've practically in just a couple of years anilahated everything..... Don't believe me, look at their fruits. Of course, there has been the very RARE governmental increase by republicans, BUT, almost always those increases were counterbalanced by much greater decreases. Hey, I'm not saying every Republican was 100% conservative. For example we didn't really like Bush's "social" conservatism.
by the way.... Don't judge a book simply by it's cover to thus think it's only polimical. It's not.... It's a history book. Please read it.
But ultimately, you are wrong that the Right is just as guilty. I know a lot of people like to say that, to make themselves think they are "balanced" in their judgments, but it's simply not the truth. Some truth yes, but mostly not.
I won't respond to your whole post, no time or interest, but on this point you're simply wrong. Classical political spectrums are:
Left: Socialism/Communism-------Liberalism--------------Centrist------------Conservative-----Fascism:Right
Or in basic economic terms:
Left: Socialism-----------Capitalism-----------Fascism :Right
And look like this in terms of Freedom:
Left: Least------less----------most-------------less-------least Right
If you have any other questions please direct them to the local community college. I'm sure a poly sci, history, or economics teacher will be just as wrong as me.
Are you going to believe liberal historical revisionism in most colleges or simple common sense and facts???
Like I said, I know these are often the "traditional" spectrums, but the one I gave you is the actual accurate one. I gave you example also..... Name a single "facist" conservative??? I also showed you how "Anarchy" is the actual "extreme" of Right ideology, not facism. For example, people like Ron Paul and Alex Jones nuts are "extremes" of the Right, yet what do you see in them, "facism"??? Not at all, you see closer to anarchy...... believing in legalized drugs, prostitution, eliminating ALL government structures, etc. THAT is the "extreme" of the Right, not Facism.
Please stop regurgitating liberal propaganda and think for a change. Look and see beyond what you are told in liberal institutions for the actual truth. Nothing I've said here is false..... otherwise, demonstrate how. You haven't and can't. Just quoting me a liberal graph won't convince me I'm wrong. I've given you examples and clear logic which shows my position correct, you however give me graphs..... You don't realize that you've been lied to..... that liberals have perverted history and facts so as to decieve entire generations. And since liberals dominate educational institutions you can't say I'm wrong.
As to your other graphs, they also are wrong.... they should instead be really the same as the policital spectrum.
Economic:
Left: Facist/Communist/Socialist........................Capitalism/Anarchy (i.e. not enough regulation) :Right
Freedom:
Left: None(i.e. Facism)/Little/Less.......................More/Most/Anarchy (i.e. no laws) :Right
These are the ACTUAL spectrums..... Not your leftist revisionism.