Difference in Cultures - Do you understand what reality is?

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It's also a comedic performance Beastie. It's probably not even totally representative of him anymore than being a nagging harpy is representative of the actresses who play certain sitcom tropes much less "white culture" as a whole.

There was a popular blog that eventually was turned into a somewhat less popular book called Stuff White People Like. It's uneven at the end, but generally quite funny. Everything on the list is a satiric commentary on the tastes and attitudes of a particular liberal, affluent crowd that is predominantly white. The meta-joke of the list is that this subculture can be taken to represent white people as a whole, which itself a parody of similar comments on black people.
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EAllusion wrote:It's also a comedic performance Beastie.


When I first read this sentence, I thought you were referring to cam's post.

It does feel like a bit of a performance to me, cam. I have no doubt you're intelligent and observant enough to already understand all the points we've made above.
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The creators of this ad. Are they more likely to be Republican or Democrat?

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Is this man a Liberal or a Conservative?

http://www.jillstanek.com/2009/07/break ... on-stands/

http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2013/06 ... n-orlando/

Where are these racists policies originating that allow the ongoing murder of Black folk?

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But aside from that, I would agree that progressives also are trying to force their values onto others. That's pretty much what government in general is about.


If liberals have values they sure seem one sided to me. What if it were three white boys beating a black boy senseless on a school bus in Florida? I doubt Al Sharpton would have remained silent. I bet Beastie would be a lot more interested in discussing it than she is when the tables are turned this way.
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The WLs on this board get a little Circle Jerky... Especially once you include the White Knights.

I think my original point was a little muddled, which didn't help the topic. Not that it would've mattered. I think some of the posters here are so mired in their groupthink they can't fathom demographic groups are fundamentally different than them, and to address those issues in order to promote understanding is "racist" or "bigoted".

I don't get it. I don't see a problem with looking at an issue honestly, and then working toward an agreeable understanding.

This leads to an interesting question, though. Do you need to live among a demographic in order to understand the demographic? Or, can you simply observe a demographic in order to understand a demographic?

For example, I've never lived among rabid Christian fundamentalists, but I can observe them on this board (and others). Do I feel like I understand them? I do. But, I have to wonder if I have a false sense of understanding based off my interactions with them on the Internet...

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ajax18 wrote:
But aside from that, I would agree that progressives also are trying to force their values onto others. That's pretty much what government in general is about.


If liberals have values they sure seem one sided to me. What if it were three white boys beating a black boy senseless on a school bus in Florida? I doubt Al Sharpton would have remained silent. I bet Beastie would be a lot more interested in discussing it than she is when the tables are turned this way.


That was a horrible, vicious crime. The perpetrators were immediately arrested and charged.

Do you honestly believe that liberals don't care about white people?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:The WLs on this board get a little Circle Jerky... Especially once you include the White Knights.

I think my original point was a little muddled, which didn't help the topic. Not that it would've mattered. I think some of the posters here are so mired in their groupthink they can't fathom demographic groups are fundamentally different than them, and to address those issues in order to promote understanding is "racist" or "bigoted".

I don't get it. I don't see a problem with looking at an issue honestly, and then working toward an agreeable understanding.

This leads to an interesting question, though. Do you need to live among a demographic in order to understand the demographic? Or, can you simply observe a demographic in order to understand a demographic?

For example, I've never lived among rabid Christian fundamentalists, but I can observe them on this board (and others). Do I feel like I understand them? I do. But, I have to wonder if I have a false sense of understanding based off my interactions with them on the Internet...

- Doc


So help us out here. Could you specifically identify what is right or important to the black culture that white liberals don't understand?
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beastie wrote:So help us out here. Could you specifically identify what is right or important to the black culture that white liberals don't understand?


Well, let's meet half way, and tell me why WLs patronize them, and why WLs introduce policies that are clearly anti-Black (keeps them subordinated through Liberal policies, murdering their unborn, etc...).

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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
beastie wrote:So help us out here. Could you specifically identify what is right or important to the black culture that white liberals don't understand?


Well, let's meet half way, and tell me why WLs patronize them, and why WLs introduce policies that are clearly anti-Black (keeps them subordinated through Liberal policies, murdering their unborn, etc...).

- Doc


Why do I have to defend a position I haven't taken?

You, on the other hand, have created this entire thread on the premise that liberals simply don't recognize reality, which is that black culture is so different in terms of what is right or important. So I think it's fair to ask you to further define that position.
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Fair enough.

Abortion.

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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