NYT Bomb: Trump Inherited $413 million - Committed Tax Fraud

[_EAllusion]

Hey thanks for the link, one quick question - why did your cut-n-paste dodge this?
The process of impeaching someone in the House of Representatives and the Senate is difficult, made so to be the balance against efforts to easily remove people from office for minor reasons that could easily be determined by the standard of "high crimes and misdemeanors".

(again, everything isn't as you say it is)
LOL indeed.

This is quite an attempt to save face. I point out that all presidential conduct is technically on the table because Congress retains the authority to define impeacheable offenses. You gainsay me and reference the Constitution, so I have to explain remedial American government to you. You retort with, "yeah, but it would be really hard." Nothing I said addressed the difficulty of convincing Congress to draw up outlandish articles of impeachment for minor offenses. I merely pointed out that Congress has the legal discretion to define what constitutes a high crime or misdemeanor. I did this to pivot to discussing what is intended and ought to be an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor. You gainsayed that too, again referring me to the Constitution. So I had to quote the Federalist Papers using my exact language, at which point you sheepishly ignored it and kept plugging away.

[_subgenius]

This is quite an attempt to save face.

But you still didn't save it..."everything" still isn't impeachable, and your ambiguous "public trust" is not as well...ESPECIALLY in the context of the OP.
But please, continue with your new hair-fire, the old one has almost burned out.

But first - notice how you move the goalposts (your first attempt to "save face")

Your wrote:
"Everything is an impeachable offense legally"
that was challenged
and so you wrote (as if synonymous with your originally claim ) :
"...so politically everything is on the table"

so which is it? is everything available legally? or politically?....or are they the same in your new goal post locale?

[_EAllusion]

The legal standard for an impeachable offense is a political determination by Congress. Because of this, any conduct is technically impeachable. That is distinct from what ought to be impeachable.

Did you take an American government class Sub? It's a serious question. Maybe a young subs studied his butt off and got a gentleman's B- and the memory has faded from there. I am just curious if you ever had a glancing responsibilty to know this stuff.

[_MeDotOrg]

This story could be like a slow-burning fuse. It will not only ensnare Trump, but his siblings as well. (My understanding that Trump's sister, who is a Judge, was a conduit for information due to her public financial disclosures.)

If the Democrats get the House this fall, I guarantee you this is going to be very carefully examined.

[_canpakes]

The legal standard for an impeachable offense is a political determination by Congress. Because of this, any conduct is technically impeachable. That is distict from what ought to be impeachable.

Did you take an American government class Sub? It's a serious question. Maybe a young subs studied his butt off and got a gentleman's B- and the memory has faded from there. I am just curious if you ever had a glancing responsibilty to know this stuff.

It’s understandable that he’d have problems comprehending what you’re saying, given that in his mind stealing hundreds of millions of dollars from the American people over the span of decades is an action to be admired and makes a candidate worthy of his vote, whereas lying about a blowjob would be an impeachable offense.

You gotta love what Republicans try to pass off as logic these days.

[_Gunnar]

Hey, that’s kinda like the Administration’s argument about how average temperatures will probably rise 7 degrees over the next century, so we may as well enact policies that will speed up that trend. Because idiocy.

Remember the 5 stages of climate change denial?

1. There is no global warming.

2. Alright, there is global warming, but we humans are not causing or contributing to it.

3. Okay, we are causing global warming, but it is a good thing.

4. Okay, global warming is a bad thing, but combatting it is not worth the cost/benefit ratio.

5. Alright, we are causing global warming and it will have disastrous consequences, but we have waited too long to do anything about it, so we might just as well give up and accept our now inevitable fate.

It seems that Trump and his administration are now well into the fifth stage. Besides, as already pointed out, it doesn't matter to them, because most of them will be dead before the most disastrous consequences become apparent.

[_canpakes]

5. Alright, we are causing global warming and it will have disastrous consequences, but we have waited too long to do anything about it, so we might just as well give up and accept our now inevitable fate.

Well, then ... time to PARTY ON ..!!!

[_Gunnar]

[quote="canpakes"]Well, then ... time to PARTY ON ..!!!
Riiiiigght!

[_Some Schmo]

The thing that's almost lost in all this talk about tax evasion is the fact that Drumpf is not only not a self-made billionaire, he's a colossal failure as a business man. He'd be on the street if his dad hadn't bailed him out over and over and over. It's little wonder he's a fuck-up as President. He only has two talents: tax fraud and getting stupid people to like/believe him.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

... getting stupid people to like/believe him.

And desperate people. I'm always amazed, when I'm downtown here in SLC, at how many people go to these MLM conventions here. When you drive south through the valley here you see these MLM HQ's just off of I-15 and it really drives home how there are a lot men who figured out how to take advantage of people who're desperate.

I think that's Turmp's biggest gift. He came from money, people want his money, and he capitalizes off other people's eagerness to get into business with him because they think he has money and they want to partner with him to make it.

I think we know how this works out for most of them.

- Doc