Suspicious packages sent to Clinton, Obama, CNN

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Re: Suspicious packages sent to Clinton, Obama, CNN

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Water Dog wrote:New York Post has a detailed writeup of the bombs. They are for-sure fake. That isn't speculation any longer.


Um, actually that's not the opinion of the FBI so far (see below):

The FBI described the devices as “potentially destructive” ... The fact that none of the bombs blew up suggests they were built by an amateur, former FBI Agent Steve Gomez told ABC News.


They're bombs made by ... a not very bright person who did not really know how to make a functioning bomb.

I hate to break it to Water Dog, but if nasty pointy headed intellectual Trump-haters really wanted to conduct a false-flag operation to make people think Trump-lovers were sending bombs to Trump-haters, then you know something?

They'd send bombs that might have worked. because they're really that clever and devious. Of course in reality they are far too soft-hearted and lily-livered to do anything of the kind.

I can't answer for the intelligence of the Trump-lovers who almost certainly sent these bombs, of course. But it's not looking good, is it?

Here is the whole of what the New York Post said.


They all arrived in identical packaging.

The five apparent pipe bombs sent to former President Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, CNN’s New York City headquarters and others were each placed in a nondescript manila envelope lined with bubble wrap, the FBI said Wednesday.

The mailers all bore six American-flag “Forever” stamps and computer-printed address labels.

“All packages had a return address of ‘DEBBIE WASSERMAN SHULTZ’ [sic] in Florida,” the FBI said in a statement.

The envelope sent to former CIA Director John Brennan at CNN offices in Manhattan also had his name misspelled, as was Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s home state, according to photos released by CNN.

That envelope didn’t bear a postmark, and law-enforcement sources told CNN it was delivered by a courier.

Photos of the device show a cylindrical object, about six inches long, wrapped in black electrical tape and with wires emerging from either end.

The wires — one red and one black — lead to a digital clock or timer taped to the middle of the tube.

A senior law-enforcement official told The New York Times that it resembled the others, saying, “Same package. Same device.”

The FBI described the devices as “potentially destructive,” and law-enforcement sources told The Post that the first one discovered — in a mailbox outside the Katonah home of billionaire George Soros Monday — had black powder on it.

But a source briefed on that device and the one sent to CNN told The Post on Wednesday that they couldn’t actually have blown up because neither was equipped with a blasting cap or other means of detonating explosive material.

“There was nothing to ignite it,” the source said. “There was nothing there.”

The source also said an envelope of unidentified powder contained in the CNN package was too small to create a radiological or biological “dirty bomb.”

The fact that none of the bombs blew up suggests they were built by an amateur, former FBI Agent Steve Gomez told ABC News.

The NYPD used its rarely seen Total Containment Vessel to move the CNN device from the network’s bureau at the Time Warner Center in Columbus Circle to the Rodman’s Neck police facility in The Bronx.

Members of the department’s elite Bomb Squad carefully loaded the device into the back of the TCV, placing it onto a suspended net inside the chamber designed to minimize jostling, police sources said.

The TCV, which is mounted on the back of a NYPD Emergency Service Unit truck, is engineered to withstand a blast from within should the device trigger during the trip, minimizing damage to those outside.

In the early afternoon, police blocked off a route to Rodman’s Neck, providing the TCV with quick access to the facility with minimal risk to motorists.

Escorted by a convoy of emergency vehicles, the TCV wound its way to the remote firing range and training facility.

Now, technicians from both the NYPD and FBI are figuring out how to safely transport the device to federal labs for further examination, NYPD Deputy Commissioner of Intelligence and Counterterrorism John Miller said in a press briefing.

The process is being hampered by the envelope of powder included in the package with the bomb, Miller said.

Ideally, investigators would like to disarm the bomb without detonating it, allowing them to comb over it for any clues to the maker’s identity, including fingerprints and DNA, sources said.

A TCV was also used to transport one of Chelsea bomber Ahmad Khan Rahimi’s undetonated pressure-cooker explosives to the facility in 2016.
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These could be the work of nonpartisan pranksters or foreign national operatives...and other possibilities may exist. Let's investigate a bit more.
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Maksutov wrote:These could be the work of nonpartisan pranksters or foreign national operatives...and other possibilities may exist. Let's investigate a bit more.


At this point, we know nothing about who is doing this. But it sure is revealing a lot about other people.
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Well. If this is a false flag op this is the expected result. If it's not a false flag op, then what in the world is the expected result?

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It's funny that they can blame Trump for this when the entire Eric Trump family were the victims of suspicious white powder packages. How much focus did CNN dedicate to this?
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ajax18 wrote:It's funny that they can blame Trump for this when the entire Eric Trump family were the victims of suspicious white powder packages. How much focus did CNN dedicate to this?


More than you gave to the fact that the guy who did it also sent white powder to at least one democratic politician. How did you forget that part? ;-)

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Res Ipsa wrote:
ajax18 wrote:It's funny that they can blame Trump for this when the entire Eric Trump family were the victims of suspicious white powder packages. How much focus did CNN dedicate to this?


More than you gave to the fact that the guy who did it also sent white powder to at least one democratic politician. How did you forget that part? ;-)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... story.html


And white powder isn't "potentially destructive" in and of itself.
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Maybe it's Putin.

At any rate, ABC reporting they're all fakes. But authorities don't want to use the word "hoax" because, something something, abundance of caution, something something, maybe these fakes are designed to lure us into a false sense of security, something something, vigilance, something something, we will not be intimidated!
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Apparently the Time Warner Bldg in NYC is being evacuated in real time. Just mentioning.
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Woops. Posted that too soon or too late. They've been given the "all clear."
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