Michael Cohen Drops Bombs on Trump

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Re: Michael Cohen Drops Bombs on Trump

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MeDotOrg wrote:People are correct when they say that today's testimony will not change a lot of people's minds, but I think today clouded the legal future of Trump and his children. With Weisselberg, Trump's CFO, a lot of the financial shenanigans of the family are going to be laid bare.


Well, it changed my mind about something. I've been dragging my feet about changing the party affiliation on my voter registration. That's definitely getting done. I don't want my name attached to anything having to do with the Republican party.

While the story had been told that Trump bought his own painting with money from his charity, hearing the details of that sleazy transaction was for me sort of the epitome of what there is to hate about Donald Trump. A billionaire who would rob money from a charity to buy a picture of himself.


It's hard to comprehend how slimy that was.

His children sat on the board of directors for the charity.


Like father, like sons and daughters.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm still processing what I heard today. Granted that some of the testimony was already known, it's just difficult to wrap one's head around the gaping hole where a soul should have been in Trump.
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aussieguy55 wrote:Do GOP members accept the fact he had affairs with two women and paid them off?


How would any of us really know the answer to that question?

Given the performances that I witnessed today on the part of all but one Republican, I don't think they really care about such things as who Trump was seeing or how much he paid them to shut up about it.

They care about maintaining their positions of status and power.

I'm still reeling over the fact that they thought their performances were powerful or effective. I can't even describe how it came off though I'm sure someone else can.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I hate that this actually works:

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That puts him right in second grade where he belongs. Does anyone want to talk about how he just dropped major bucks to his BFF and no "deal" was achieved or how it was an obvious attempt to distract our attention away from Cohen's testimony or the Mueller investigation. Didn't work, did it?

Remember when we used to use the terms "agreement" "accord" and such?

The former reality show star referred to his campaign as an infomercial, now he's the MC of the greatest crap show on earth. And we just paid majorly for his attempted distraction.

I cannot fully express the sheer contempt I feel right now.
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subgenius wrote:Cohen, disbarred, secret recordings of clients, tax fraud, false statements to banks, false statements to Congress, and about to do 3 years in Federal Prison. Democrats *He's totally legit, i believe him.

Well, it’s about time that you showed up, with your Clinton Kill List fetish in tow. Because, you don’t know why.

How’s that ‘Jewish folks weren’t gassed during the Holocaust’ thing working out for you, since you’re advertising goofy claims?
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Special Counsel Mueller's prosecutors have evidence that Russian military intelligence interacted directly with Roger Stone. Cohen's testimony really just drives home for Congress what the special counsel already knows. Subgenius and by extension Trump's fuckbois base won't be able to meme their way out of reality. This isn't an election.

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So basically subgenius and company over at FOX are telling us that Trump's associate and confidant of ten years cannot be trusted because he is a pathalogical liar despite having documents to corroborate his testimony.

Also, they're telling us ruthless dictators like Kim Jong Un and Putin are telling the truth when they deny murdering US citizens intentionally.
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Kevin Graham wrote:So basically subgenius and company over at FOX are telling us that Trump's associate and confidant of ten years cannot be trusted because he is a pathalogical liar despite having documents to corroborate his testimony.

Also, they're telling us ruthless dictators like Kim Jong Un and Putin are telling the truth when they deny murdering US citizens intentionally.


If that’s true, why should we trust the pathological liar in the White House?

Being a Trump Apologist is hard.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Special Counsel Mueller's prosecutors have evidence that Russian military intelligence interacted directly with Roger Stone. Cohen's testimony really just drives home for Congress what the special counsel already knows. Subgenius and by extension Trump's ____ base won't be able to meme their way out of reality. This isn't an election.

- Doc


The real dagger for Trump is probably going to be the SDNY and not Mueller.

I'm beginning to see a lot of parallels in this two year apologetic fiasco for Trump and Mopologetics in general.

Every week something new transpires and a lot of us think, "Oh that's definitely going to prevent Trump from getting reelected." And the list of crazy crap he's said/done has become so voluminous you can't even keep up with it anymore and it all gets forgotten with the next scandal of the week. Who even talks about the fact that he screwed a porn star anymore? Or that the Trump administration kidnapped thousands of kids? Or that he responded to national emergencies with mocking (PR and California)?

The collusion meme in the media needs to shift gears. Because the more fodder that exists just becomes a smokescreen for the real coffin nails that are out there, and I think the SDNY has those nails. Like with Mopologetics, some people get caught up in the endless list of issues like anachronisms in the Book of Mormon or whether or not a Prophet can be imperfect, etc. It wears you down after so long that many folks just throw their hands up and say, "So much stuff and nothing can be proved one way or the other so I'll just go with my feelings." That's how Trump could get reelected. But that's why I gave up on all of that Mopologetic nonsense and focused on only one thing that drove the dagger home: The Book of Abraham. That one issue alone proves the Church isn't what it claims to be. One people realize this, everything else suddenly becomes irrelevant. And that's what needs to happen with the endless crap going against Trump. There is so much of it, that if he isn't indicted, impeached or held accountable in any way, I can see people interpreting this as proof that he was right all along about how everything everyone is talking about is just "fake news" and then reelect him as not a President, but now a Prophet.

The media needs to focus on what we know for a fact, what can be demonstrated by evidence, and stop speculating about what may or may not happen with the Mueller probe. There is already enough out there to ruin Trump's chances at reelection if we'd just keep pounding on those points every night instead. The media is repeating the same mistakes it made when it let go of the Access Hollywood story and followed the Hillary Email train.
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Well, the only hope his base has right now is that he's not being charged with a crime, despite enough evidence to do so. I have no idea why it's not happening at this point.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Special Counsel Mueller's prosecutors have evidence that Russian military intelligence interacted directly with Roger Stone. Cohen's testimony really just drives home for Congress what the special counsel already knows. Subgenius and by extension Trump's fuckbois base won't be able to meme their way out of reality. This isn't an election.

- Doc


That's not the whole of his testimony that we saw. I read that he is doing 2 closed door sessions. I know he's doing one today but I don't know if that's the first or second.
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