Ajax's Relative Can't Find Work

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EAllusion wrote:The way countries like the US solve this economic problem is with immigration. And xenophobes like Ajax try to kneecap it and hurt us all.


I've never seen him complain about white people immigrating to the US. His arguments is full on raciest white supremacy. I know he likes to describe himself as a white separatist, but his argument here was that Latin American people/culture could not have done as well white people even if they had been given things like California. That is about as white supremacist as one can get.
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The way countries like the US solve this economic problem is with immigration. And xenophobes like Ajax try to kneecap it and hurt us all.


We need to have the same multicultural vision as the early southern planters who helped solve their low birth rate and lack of labor supply with slave labor imported from Africa.
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Sorry to interfere with your taxpayer funded cheap labor supply. But from the results of the last election, I think there is a significant portion of the working taxpaying population who doesn't feel like we should have to fund that for you forever.
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ajax18 wrote:But from the results of the last election, I think there is a significant portion of the working taxpaying population who doesn't feel like we should have to fund that for you forever.


The results from the last election didn't go that well for the Republicans.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Un ... _elections

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Un ... in_Arizona

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Un ... _in_Nevada

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Un ... nnsylvania

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Un ... n_Michigan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Wi ... l_election

https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018 ... le-1000481
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ajax18 wrote:Sorry to interfere with your taxpayer funded cheap labor supply. But from the results of the last election, I think there is a significant portion of the working taxpaying population who doesn't feel like we should have to fund that for you forever.
Polls overwhelmingly oppose your immigration views and the median position is to the left of what the Democratic Party supports. You seem to have confused Trump getting elected, with a minority of votes no less, with America agreeing with every jot and tittle of your views.

This is dumb.

(Immigration results in net contribution to tax revenues. I know you don’t care to listen to evidence, but you are just willfully lying at this point.)
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Jesse Jackson Jr wrote:
We need to have the same multicultural vision as the early southern planters who helped solve their low birth rate and lack of labor supply with slave labor imported from Africa.

Yes Ajax. Voluntary immigration from people who choose to come to America is just like slavery.

Conversely, it’s unlike, uh, immigration.
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Incidentally, what immigration is solving in making up for low birth rates is productivity losses from a shrinking workforce and shrinking demand from fewer consumers. It also provides a younger base to fund the private and public expenses associated with aging. This is quite distinct from the issue of “cheap” labor. Shrinking populations means shrinking economy in relative terms.
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End social welfare and I'll be the first to say let's have open borders.
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ajax18 wrote:End social welfare and I'll be the first to say let's have open borders.

In the first place, I don't believe you. In the second place, for the umpteenth time, no one here is advocating open borders! In the third place, why are you opposed to social welfare programs, and yet opposed to raising minimum wages that are so low that, in many areas of the country, it is impossible for workers with full time, minimum wage jobs to afford housing and food for themselves and their families without the help of social welfare?
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