You ask this question as if those people operate under the same cultural beliefs we do here.
Maybe we should revisit your point when we decide who we're going to grant a visa to fly into the United States.
I have family in military intelligence (I know big woop but still) who have told me what Iran could do is launch all all out attack that would inflict significant damage to our to our forces in the area for about 6-8 house before we removed them from the map. They have a big enough arsenal that if they simply launched it all at once we could not possibly prevent it all from hitting. So they could go out, as it were, with a bang. If you have relative in the military in this area, this is a huge concern right now.
I can't imagine when I would not be worried if I had a relative in the US military serving in the middle east.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
ajax18 wrote: That's a pretty safe prediction given that Iran has been orchestrating terrorist attacks and preparing for war for quite some time.
Iran's nuclear ambitions were contained with diplomacy until you decided it would be better to have a leader who would unleash that threat again.
We're not invading and occupying Iran. I'm not sure how you can say it's already a Vietnam or Iraq situation.
I'm describing the arguments in favor of the Iraq war and against its critics already out of the bag in the popular media conversation about Iran. Being catastrophically wrong hasn't stopped some of the exact same people being put on cable news to give them another spin nor has it stopped mainstream sources like the NYT from making identical bad editorial decisions in how to cover war prelude stories.
But Trump said he did this to prevent a war. See. He spent three years building his trustworthiness and taking care never to lie to the American people, so we can be sure this was 4d chess and not some sort of Adderall-fueled decision influenced by Sen. Graham who’s had a hard-on for Iran and their complicity in American deaths in Iraq.
I don’t believe war, and I mean all out conventional warfare, is a real possibility, but I don’t see why asymmetrical proxy fighting and targeted assassination of military and diplomatic personnel won’t scale up a bit.
The real scary bit is if Iran goes full balls on devo of their nuclear capabilities we’ll almost certainly see Israel attack them, and that’s where it gets wonky as “F”. AIPAC will be lobbying hard for us to get into another ME quagmire.
Also, China ain’t gonna do crap except for continue their open colonization of Africa which is where the future probably lies in a geopolitical sense. I think their need for a continental hegemony will have some really interesting ramifications 30-50 years down the road.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
I feel a bit sheepish about joking that Trump would launch a drone strike on Trudeau for his part on laughing at Trump with those European leaders at the Summit meeting.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:But Trump said he did this to prevent a war. See. He spent three years building his trustworthiness and...
We get it, Trump is a compulsive liar.
I think their need for a continental hegemony will have some really interesting ramifications 30-50 years down the road.
- Doc
China's Belt and Road initiative has already produced ramifications. The biggest change will be when the Renminbi replaces the US Dollar as the world currency standard. By then the Republican party will have its Beijing Candidate.
My understanding is the media told us that sound, legally unquestionable infosec practices among presidential candidates are the single most important thing about presidential election years and that Republican politicians in particular take this very seriously, so surely this means Trump is toast.
ajax18 wrote:How exactly is Iran going to retaliate? Start aiding and abetting terrorists to carry out attacks on the US and Israel? I'm pretty sure that's what Iran does whether you fight them or give them 6 ton pallets of cash as Obama did. It doesn't really change how Iran behaves.
The Obama admin negotiated the return of seized Iranian assets as part of a broader series of trade offs in a peace deal aimed at nuclear nonproliferation that was working before the Trump admin blew it up. The knuckle dragging media you consume that portrays this as a pretty please bribe is misleading you.
Iran could do more if it wanted to is the answer to your question. Some of your political heroes might suffer some unfortunate accidents. You might think they’re already doing all they can, but they were not.
I’m no expert on Iran, but it seems like they would be wise to develop nuclear weapons ASAP.
I agree. Trump could hardly have more surely guaranteed that outcome if that had been his actual intent.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
