COVID Deaths are an Undercount

The Off-Topic forum for anything non-LDS related, such as sports or politics. Rated PG through PG-13.
Post Reply
_Icarus
_Emeritus
Posts: 1541
Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:01 pm

Re: COVID Deaths are an Undercount

Post by _Icarus »

https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus-ge ... fLG-6aqZfo

Q: Does today’s case data show how the virus is spreading right now in Georgia?

A: No. Epidemiologists agree that today's counts are a snapshot of what the virus did roughly two weeks ago. It can take a week or more for a person to become infected, show symptoms, get tested and have their results reported to public health officials. Deaths are generally reported to the state quickly, but it can take weeks for an infected person to succumb to the virus.

Q: What does the 7-day average line indicate?

A: This measure makes it easier to see trends in the spread of the virus that can be obscured by unrelated bumps and dips. For instance, Georgia’s daily case counts tend to be lower on the weekends because reporting and testing slows down, not because fewer people are getting sick.

Q: Why do the AJC’s charts look different from DPH's charts?

A: Recently, DPH has added trend charts to their site, “COVID-19 Cases over Time” and “Confirmed COVID Deaths over Time.” In those charts, as new reports come in, DPH allocates them to earlier dates, based on when symptoms developed; tests were taken or reported to the state; or deaths occurred. Those two time-series charts are always going to show a downward trend because of the lag in when the data is reported. On May 1, for example, the chart of cases showed 21 news cases. Now the chart shows more than 600 for that date.

We believe showing running averages of cases and deaths, along with the day's latest data on new infections and deaths, is the most accurate and clear way to show trends over time. Many other organizations use this visualization.This is how the AJC determines our daily count of new, confirmed cases: [Today's cumulative DPH case count] - [Yesterday's cumulative DPH case count] = Today's AJC daily count of new cases. We do the same for deaths.
_ajax18
_Emeritus
Posts: 6914
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:56 am

Re: COVID Deaths are an Undercount

Post by _ajax18 »

And then we find out that 15% of all negative tests could be false negatives.

https://www.wpri.com/health/coronavirus ... sed-in-ri/
If only we had more of these tests, things would have been so much better.
_ajax18
_Emeritus
Posts: 6914
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:56 am

Re: COVID Deaths are an Undercount

Post by _ajax18 »

The only thing we can be certain of is that covid is much deadlier than the seasonal flu.
Covid also has helped produce a lot more poverty and collapsed the word's greatest economy in a way the flu never could have done as well.
_Some Schmo
_Emeritus
Posts: 15602
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:59 pm

Re: COVID Deaths are an Undercount

Post by _Some Schmo »

ajax18 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 1:30 pm
Covid also has helped produce a lot more poverty and collapsed the word's greatest economy in a way the flu never could have done as well.
Trump collapsed Obama's strong economy with his incompetence, and that's all you care about. The almost 100,000 deaths so far is blood on every Trump supporter's hands, so no wonder you want to whine about "inflated death counts."

Treating Republicans better than they deserve is going get all of us killed.
_Doctor CamNC4Me
_Emeritus
Posts: 21663
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am

Re: COVID Deaths are an Undercount

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

So. My takeaway is this. Conservatives generally think people ought to be personally responsible for their own behavior. This includes a pandemic. Teach people good principles. Let them govern themselves. Those who act responsibly will be fine. Those who don’t made that choice and the consequence is theirs to own. Personal accountability Trump's all, no pun intended. Some innocents will die, but that’s just God’s will.

The second order effect that Conservatives like is the economy can keep humming along. Free people associating freely, conducting commerce, making a life for themselves. Cool. Pandemic can’t get us down because, you know, it’s not really killing that many people that matter, ie, producers. A relatively small percentage of people dying is worth it, because the cure is worse than the disease.

The third order effect that Conservatives like is the people being killed by the pandemic are, mostly, drains on resources. 90k+ and counting are almost entirely social security and welfare recipients, medicare and medicaid abusers, the obese, dysgenics, and the weak. Basically we’ve unnaturally extended the lives of useless consumers, and the herd needs culling because we’re balls deep in debt with no exit plan.

This is the messaging they’ve broadcast loud and clear. In November we’ll find out if the country agrees with that message, or if they prefer the alternative as outlined in the Obama’s gameplan that was ignored.

- Doc
_Icarus
_Emeritus
Posts: 1541
Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:01 pm

Re: COVID Deaths are an Undercount

Post by _Icarus »

A more accurate way to compare COVID to the Flu:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... e=Facebook
_ajax18
_Emeritus
Posts: 6914
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:56 am

Re: COVID Deaths are an Undercount

Post by _ajax18 »

Treating Republicans better than they deserve is going get all of us killed.
How exactly would you like to treat people guilty of voting for Trump? Imprisoned? assets seized and redistributed? executed?
_DarkHelmet
_Emeritus
Posts: 5422
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:38 pm

Re: COVID Deaths are an Undercount

Post by _DarkHelmet »

ajax18 wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 4:54 pm
Treating Republicans better than they deserve is going get all of us killed.
How exactly would you like to treat people guilty of voting for Trump? Imprisoned? assets seized and redistributed? executed?
Maybe we could start acting like Trumptards and chant "lock him up".
_ajax18
_Emeritus
Posts: 6914
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:56 am

Re: COVID Deaths are an Undercount

Post by _ajax18 »

Maybe we could start acting like Trumptards and chant "lock him up".
Start, haven't you been doing that for 4 years now? Schmo is saying that Republican voters have blood on their hands. Apparently he wants mass executions of people who continue to go to work as a safety measure for all non Trump supporters.
_Doctor CamNC4Me
_Emeritus
Posts: 21663
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am

Re: COVID Deaths are an Undercount

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

> Apparently he wants mass executions

aPparEntLy hE WaNTs mAsS eXEcuTioNs!

Jesus damned Christ. It never ends.

- Doc
Post Reply