Biden knew Saddam Hussein had NO plans to attack the US. Evidence is overwhelming.

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Re: Biden knew Saddam Hussein had NO plans to attack the US. Evidence is overwhelming.

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Some Schmo wrote:
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EAllusion wrote:
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DT has a 10 point bullet plan for the government to help him get laid with someone he finds attractive.
It's funny 'cause it's true.
I would say that 75% of young single women and 60% of single women over 25 are attractive.


Do you think my life is funny?
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One of the axioms of physics comes down to physics working the same no matter where you are in the universe. Faster than light travel isn't happening. Not for us, not for aliens. So alien races that are making the effort to send their members out into space aren't doing so on multiple century or millennium exploratory missions. They have destinations in mind.

So suppose you are a race that has evolved on a planet somewhere. How did your race evolve? By the laws of biology it was through competition and evolutionary forces. Being an intelligent race means you have a dark past because you didn't get to the top by giving up your place in line.

But, you say, any race capable of achieving the advances needed to travel successfully between stars likely became a more culturally evolved race that values cooperation over competition. But they are also needing to take their show on the road. Why? Resources are scarce in our universe and if you are a race that is trying to get off planet it isn't due to benevolent intent to spread the Gospel of good tech to other competition-evolved races who could easily decide to turn it back against you. So if you can stay home, you will. If you don't stay home, there are reasons for it that likely spell bad news for whomever is on the planet you are heading toward. You also know that any race you meet that begins to develop tech based on what you have developed is going to seek their own survival over yours. So the human race is a threat to any alien race that is made aware of our existance.

If an alien race shows up in our solar system, we are toast.
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Re: Biden knew Saddam Hussein had NO plans to attack the US. Evidence is overwhelming.

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:32 am

Do you think my life is funny?
I've never been much for tragic comedies.

I did think EA's comment was funny though.

Dude, I'm not entirely sure what to make of you. Sometimes you write really screwed up things. I want to imagine you're a teenager so I can forgive some of it, but that doesn't ring true.
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Re: Biden knew Saddam Hussein had NO plans to attack the US. Evidence is overwhelming.

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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:14 am

Dude, I'm not entirely sure what to make of you. Sometimes you write really ____ up things. I want to imagine you're a teenager so I can forgive some of it, but that doesn't ring true.
Dude, I always give references or links, but you always ignore them. I don't think you are as smart as you think you are.

And I never "write really ____ up things" without a good reference. You have to forgive the research, not me!

And your comment has nothing to do with the topic or my response, it is just an excuse to cover your bullying!
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honorentheos wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:55 am
One of the axioms of physics comes down to physics working the same no matter where you are in the universe. Faster than light travel isn't happening. Not for us, not for aliens. So alien races that are making the effort to send their members out into space aren't doing so on multiple century or millennium exploratory missions. They have destinations in mind.

So suppose you are a race that has evolved on a planet somewhere. How did your race evolve? By the laws of biology it was through competition and evolutionary forces. Being an intelligent race means you have a dark past because you didn't get to the top by giving up your place in line.

But, you say, any race capable of achieving the advances needed to travel successfully between stars likely became a more culturally evolved race that values cooperation over competition. But they are also needing to take their show on the road. Why? Resources are scarce in our universe and if you are a race that is trying to get off planet it isn't due to benevolent intent to spread the Gospel of good tech to other competition-evolved races who could easily decide to turn it back against you. So if you can stay home, you will. If you don't stay home, there are reasons for it that likely spell bad news for whomever is on the planet you are heading toward. You also know that any race you meet that begins to develop tech based on what you have developed is going to seek their own survival over yours. So the human race is a threat to any alien race that is made aware of our existance.

If an alien race shows up in our solar system, we are toast.

It is something that I am going to have to think about. You make a good argument. However, if a civilization comes to our solar system it would likely go to Mars and Venus.
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You missed the part about it being axiomatic that any race they encounter that is capable of developing or copying advanced tech such as the human race must be treated as a threat. We can and likely will become competition. The options are avoid contact completely or eliminate, not coexist with. By choosing to come here anyway, they made it clear they are taking us out before we can realize that threat.
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honorentheos wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:38 am
You missed the part about it being axiomatic that any race they encounter that is capable of developing or copying advanced tech such as the human race must be treated as a threat. We can and likely will become competition. The options are avoid contact completely or eliminate, not coexist with. By choosing to come here anyway, they made it clear they are taking us out before we can realize that threat.
Okay, you make another point. But thankfully we humans are nothing and we won't be able to copy the advance tech of an interstellar civilization anytime soon, so they would just leave us alone. For interstellar aliens we would only be primitive apes.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:14 am
To repeat, your comment has nothing to do with the topic or my response, it is just an excuse to cover your bullying.
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They just travelled centuries or even a millennium to get here because of that whole lack of faster than light travel. This isn't a race looking at humans as insignificant because we are working on interplanetary travel today. The calculus of our becoming advanced enough to turn their own tech back against them in a relatively short time frame compared to their trip guarantees they remove us immediately so they can enjoy the reward of risking the interstellar trip in the first place.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:26 am
Dude, I always give references or links, but you always ignore them.
There are two problems with this:

- How do you know I always ignore them?
- Your links often don't support the thing you think they do
I don't think you are as smart as you think you are.
Yeah, probably. It's a shame, because I'm a damned dumb ass... and it could be even worse!
And I never "write really ____ up things" without a good reference. You have to forgive the research, not me!
Yeah... nonsense. Saying something screwed up and then including a footnote doesn't remove the screwed up.
And your comment has nothing to do with the topic or my response, it is just an excuse to cover your bullying!
You asked me if I thought your life was funny. Did you want me to ignore it?

If you think I'm a bully, hit back, idiot. Come on, I dare ya. The only way to beat a bully is to hit back. Let's see what you got.

Hey, Biff... take your damn hands off of her...
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