Trump attempted assassination at Rally Today?! He was bleeding

[honorentheos]

When money is at stake, people do their homework.

2020:



2024:

Then why are the lines so volatile?

[honorentheos]

I agree that the shooter and/or whoever conspired with or motivated him to attempt this had to be incredibly stupid to think that this would somehow help Biden's and the Democrats' chances to win in November, whether or not the assassination attempt succeeded. I think it more likely that the shooter had a personal vendetta against Trump himself and couldn't care less about what other consequences might result from it. Also, more likely than a motivation to ensure Biden's election, is a determination to damage to damage the entire country and the democratic process itself, regardless of which political parties would be hurt most by it. I think those are the 2 likeliest motivations behind this. Either a personal vendetta against Trump himself, regardless of whom else gets hurt, or a terrorist act by some entity, either foreign or domestic, who wants to hurt the entire nation and what we stand for.

I hope that the least likely motivation for this act was an attempt by MAGA to stage a false flag scenario in order to blame Biden and the Democrats for the attempt. Can we safely rule that out? I hope so!

Hey Gunnar,

At the moment not much is known and I'm sure there will be plenty of speculation even after the facts are in. But I wouldn't assume this wasn't a political act of violence carried out by someone who you may have agreed with politically. No side is pure or virtuous in politics. Men are not angels and politics are a substitute for the violence folks might otherwise do in more of primitive times. Remember that anyone can get a firearm in the US and all too easily become sure of the righteousness of their causes and see themselves as a main character in the narrative.

I hope we can focus on avoiding more violence and affirming political violence is abhorrent in all of its forms.

[canpakes]

I think it more likely that the shooter had a personal vendetta against Trump himself and couldn't care less about what other consequences might result from it.

I think it more likely that the shooter had heard, and heard, and heard, and heard the grossly irresponsible talk about Trump …

Or, he could have just heard the grossly irresponsible talk from Trump.

No excuses for what followed, but if you’re going to blame someone’s speech for this, then it’s best to be realistic with the past. We have several dozen rallies worth of poisonous rhetoric from the man himself that could have been a factor under that logic, yes?

[drumdude]

Then why are the lines so volatile?

They reflect the best data at each given point in time. Like with the stock market, there are an infinite number of variables being fed into the equation. Trump has a bad poll, his odds tick down. Just like if Apple has a bad earnings report. Those are just the first order effects. A leader gets sick in Ukraine? Maybe people think that's bad for Biden and better for Trump. The people making the odds are constantly re-evaluating them just like stock market prices are constantly re-evaluated.

The free market is very good at settling on the correct value for something and making judgements about all of the data. After all, a lot of money is at stake.

[bill4long]

WHITE POWER !!!



Moksha writes some stupid sh*t, but that was the stupidest.

[Jersey Girl]

WHITE POWER !!!

Moksha writes some stupid sh*t, but that was the stupidist.

StupidEst

[honorentheos]

Then why are the lines so volatile?

They reflect the best data at each given point in time.

Exactly. And Trump would run away with it if the election were tomorrow.

But it's not.

[Gunnar]

On a recent Biden interview, he stressed "putting Trump in the bullseye." I can't help thinking this was an unwise choice of words on his part. Perhaps the moronic shooter took this literally.

[Gunnar]

I agree that the shooter and/or whoever conspired with or motivated him to attempt this had to be incredibly stupid to think that this would somehow help Biden's and the Democrats' chances to win in November, whether or not the assassination attempt succeeded. I think it more likely that the shooter had a personal vendetta against Trump himself and couldn't care less about what other consequences might result from it. Also, more likely than a motivation to ensure Biden's election, is a determination to damage to damage the entire country and the democratic process itself, regardless of which political parties would be hurt most by it. I think those are the 2 likeliest motivations behind this. Either a personal vendetta against Trump himself, regardless of whom else gets hurt, or a terrorist act by some entity, either foreign or domestic, who wants to hurt the entire nation and what we stand for.

I hope that the least likely motivation for this act was an attempt by MAGA to stage a false flag scenario in order to blame Biden and the Democrats for the attempt. Can we safely rule that out? I hope so!

Hey Gunnar,

At the moment not much is known and I'm sure there will be plenty of speculation even after the facts are in. But I wouldn't assume this wasn't a political act of violence carried out by someone who you may have agreed with politically. No side is pure or virtuous in politics. Men are not angels and politics are a substitute for the violence folks might otherwise do in more of primitive times. Remember that anyone can get a firearm in the US and all too easily become sure of the righteousness of their causes and see themselves as a main character in the narrative.

I hope we can focus on avoiding more violence and affirming political violence is abhorrent in all of its forms.

Points well taken, but whether or not the shooter "agreed with me politically", it would have been incredibly stupid of him to think that his act would have helped ensure Biden's reelection. Besides that, if he actually believed this was a proper course to take, he certainly did not agree with me politically.

[Binger]

Points well taken, but whether or not the shooter "agreed with me politically", it would have been incredibly stupid of him to think that his act would have helped ensure Biden's reelection. Besides that, if he actually believed this was a proper course to take, he certainly did not agree with me politically.

Bless your heart. Is this how you treated Americans after January 6 which was attended by still anonymous FBI agents? Cry me a river.