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canpakes wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 8:29 pm
I don’t think I’ve ever run across any supporter of Trump who could point out a Christian principle that The Donald displays.
For many Christians (not all) the sanctity of life is foundational. Trump's presidency has been marked by significant pro-life actions.From publicly affirming the sanctity of life in unprecedented ways, to expanding the Mexico City Policy (which restricted taxpayer funded abortions overseas), to his appointments of justices to the SC that lead to the overturning of Roe V Wade and put these decisions back to the state level.

For many Christians who believe that every life is a sacred gift from God (again, not all Christians), these were not small things, they were monumental - And many saw them as very significant Christian principles.

I understand that many will see things very differently, but you said that you have never run across any supporter of Trump who could point out a Christian principle that DT displays, and since I am a DT supporter and a Christian, I thought I would point one out for you.
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Trump, in no way, respects the sanctity of life and his behaviors prove that the opposite is true.
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Every life is a sacred gift from god until it pops its illegal ass over the border.
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Every life is a sacred gift from god until it pops its illegal ass over the border.
Or needs FOOD that is already grown, stored, ready to deliver and paid for by the American public. In that case, you simply BURN the food and let adults and children STARVE to DEATH.

Respects the sanctity of life, my ass.
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Wed Sep 24, 2025 9:05 pm
Trump, in no way, respects the sanctity of life and his behaviors prove that the opposite is true.
Especially given that it is widely perceived that he has been a part of at least one abortion by a former partner.

I’m sure that it was ‘the only moral one’.
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But the big takeaway, the thing we all need to understand, is that the reason Trump was re-elected is that, despite being convicted of sexual assault in a court of law (not certain it was rape only because whatever penetrated her vagina wasn't necessarily big enough to be considered a penis), he was successful in taking away women's rights!

Imagine that. A suspected rapist helped restrict American women's autonomy while abusing the law. Praise the lord! That is monumental, alright. How could you not vote for him, in light of all he's done to make us a less free nation?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 9:15 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 9:10 pm
Every life is a sacred gift from god until it pops its illegal ass over the border.
Or needs FOOD that is already grown, stored, ready to deliver and paid for by the American public. In that case, you simply BURN the food and let adults and children STARVE to DEATH.

Respects the sanctity of life, my ass.

But did they even say ‘Thank you’?
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ceeboo wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 8:57 pm
canpakes wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 8:29 pm
I don’t think I’ve ever run across any supporter of Trump who could point out a Christian principle that The Donald displays.
For many Christians (not all) the sanctity of life is foundational. Trump's presidency has been marked by significant pro-life actions.From publicly affirming the sanctity of life in unprecedented ways, to expanding the Mexico City Policy (which restricted taxpayer funded abortions overseas), to his appointments of justices to the SC that lead to the overturning of Roe V Wade and put these decisions back to the state level.

For many Christians who believe that every life is a sacred gift from God (again, not all Christians), these were not small things, they were monumental - And many saw them as very significant Christian principles.

I understand that many will see things very differently, but you said that you have never run across any supporter of Trump who could point out a Christian principle that DT displays, and since I am a DT supporter and a Christian, I thought I would point one out for you.
I’m not so sure that this answers the question. Moves to dismantle abortion access aren’t necessarily a ‘Christian principle’, especially given what the Bible has to say about abortion (not much of anything at all). They are, however, transactional - in other words, done to gain the votes of certain people who will value their anti-abortion efforts above the combined weight of every other action that Trump takes part in.

Christian principles would be better represented by how a person acts on the daily. How they treat others, and what values they promote from within themselves. By that measure, a man who loudly and publicly declares hatred of ‘half the country’ and spends his time trying to insult or belittle others, while characterizing millions as vermin or not worth his time or effort, is not displaying Christian principles, especially when those actions are viewed in tandem with his fraud convictions, adultery, sexual abuse episodes, abuse of charities that had money skimmed from them, fraudulent business scams that ripped off thousands, and his likely involvement - ironically - with at least one abortion.

It would be hard to point to his predecessor and find anything of note that begins to approach this list, but you likely regard Biden as demonic … pretty much for not removing an existing law that let citizens decide their pregnancy options on their own or with their doctor, as opposed to being commanded by the State what to do.

Even today, Trump’s pettiness, uselessly cruel immaturity and complete lack of graciousness was in full display as the White House proudly tweeted out a photo of Trump admiring the replacement of Biden’s photograph within a hallway of Presidential portraits, with a picture of an autopen signing his name.

I meet small children every day who exhibit more morality, maturity and ‘Christian principles’ than Trump will ever display. The challenge remains open for a demonstration of any Christian principles by Trump.

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canpakes wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:13 pm
ceeboo wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 8:57 pm

For many Christians (not all) the sanctity of life is foundational. Trump's presidency has been marked by significant pro-life actions.From publicly affirming the sanctity of life in unprecedented ways, to expanding the Mexico City Policy (which restricted taxpayer funded abortions overseas), to his appointments of justices to the SC that lead to the overturning of Roe V Wade and put these decisions back to the state level.

For many Christians who believe that every life is a sacred gift from God (again, not all Christians), these were not small things, they were monumental - And many saw them as very significant Christian principles.

I understand that many will see things very differently, but you said that you have never run across any supporter of Trump who could point out a Christian principle that DT displays, and since I am a DT supporter and a Christian, I thought I would point one out for you.
I’m not so sure that this answers the question. Moves to dismantle abortion access aren’t necessarily a ‘Christian principle’, especially given what the Bible has to say about abortion (not much of anything at all). They are, however, transactional - in other words, done to gain the votes of certain people who will value their anti-abortion efforts above the combined weight of every other action that Trump takes part in.

Christian principles would be better represented by how a person acts on the daily. How they treat others, and what values they promote from within themselves. By that measure, a man who loudly and publicly declares hatred of ‘half the country’ and spends his time trying to insult or belittle others, while characterizing millions as vermin or not worth his time or effort, is not displaying Christian principles, especially when those actions are viewed in tandem with his fraud convictions, adultery, sexual abuse episodes, abuse of charities that had money skimmed from them, fraudulent business scams that ripped off thousands, and his likely involvement - ironically - with at least one abortion.

It would be hard to point to his predecessor and find anything of note that begins to approach this list, but you likely regard Biden as demonic … pretty much for not removing an existing law that let citizens decide their pregnancy options on their own or with their doctor, as opposed to being commanded by the State what to do.

Even today, Trump’s pettiness, uselessly cruel immaturity and complete lack of graciousness was in full display as the White House proudly tweeted out a photo of Trump admiring the replacement of Biden’s photograph within a hallway of Presidential portraits, with a picture of an autopen signing his name.

I meet small children every day who exhibit more morality, maturity and ‘Christian principles’ than Trump will ever display. The challenge remains open for a demonstration of any Christian principles by Trump.

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Trump could have labeled the 46th president "Fuckpen". How mature and Christian would that have been? Probably more Canadian than Christian, don't you think?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 9:15 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 9:10 pm
Every life is a sacred gift from god until it pops its illegal ass over the border.
Or needs FOOD that is already grown, stored, ready to deliver and paid for by the American public. In that case, you simply BURN the food and let adults and children STARVE to DEATH.

Respects the sanctity of life, my ass.
Saying you're against abortions out of principle is as anti-life as it gets, given the numerous documented cases of problematic pregnancies threatening women's lives. Calling yourself pro-life while restricting women's autonomy is as self-deceptive as it gets. They're pro-imagined-life, not pro-real-life.
Religion is for people whose existential fear is greater than their common sense. It's also the favored cover for hypocrites.

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