They Come to America

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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:36 pm
bill4long wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 7:56 pm
Relative to the rest of the world it didn't suck.
I'm glad I could guide you to your own answer. It's always a more rewarding experience being taught how to fish.
Because they're freeloaders who are a burden on the taxpayers, who have already demonstrated to be lawbreakers.
If only there were data, from think tanks ranging the political spectrum, that we could look at to see if this matches reality.

[pole baited, and ready to cast]
How many are you willing to have live with you?
Kind of a weird question. Are you feeling ok?
Boring. Your answers sound like what a pot head would say.
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bill4long wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:33 pm
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:23 pm
I guess Shades is okay with multiple sock puppets now?
Are you making an accusation against me? Apparently so.

If Shades wants to call me on the phone, I'll provide him with a number. I have no problem vetting myself. You?
Loran,

I’m in. Shades knows my face, my phone number, and far too many of my secrets. Once you’ve been thoroughly vetted by Dr. Shades, let me know if you made the cut. :lol:
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:58 pm
bill4long wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:33 pm
Are you making an accusation against me? Apparently so.

If Shades wants to call me on the phone, I'll provide him with a number. I have no problem vetting myself. You?
Loran,

I’m in. Shades knows my face, my phone number, and far too many of my secrets. Once you’ve been thoroughly vetted by Dr. Shades, let me know if you made the cut. :lol:
Fantastic denn!

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:23 pm
I've been fascinated by Loran’s ability to run a three-man circus (Horndogger, Hooch and Bill4short). I guess Shades is okay with multiple sock puppets now?
Do you enjoy being factually incorrect about everything? Your credibility as an apologist apologist is taking a hit.
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bill4long wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:04 pm
canpakes wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 3:36 pm
Hi, Bill -

If the Hound account is not capable of discussing this, I can direct a reply to you, instead. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

1. Social Contract theory.
2. Hound’s statement above uses ill-defined terms. Primarily, what is ‘whiteness’? Is ‘’whiteness’ destroyed if a Caucasian gets a great tan at San Tropez? Or is the question and word choice hiding some other concepts that the author is afraid to speak about?
3. The second point immediately above needs to be resolved first in order to best address Question 3, but the answer is rooted in Answer 4 below.
4. Tribalism is natural. Where the issue arises is from treating it as a zero-sum game.
1. Too vague to have any meaning worth responding to. Tighten it up.
2. We all know what whiteness is and what's going on in the USA. Try again.
3. Non-responsive.
4. Natural yes. And subjective. You're nothing close to being an arbiter.

Boring.
OK, then. At least I took this farther than you were willing to, leaving you at the point of just JAQing off with no intent to discuss.

I guess that the Hound account wants to be known for weird racist hangups.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:23 pm
Canpakes,

I've been fascinated by Loran’s ability to run a three-man circus (Horndogger, Hooch and Bill4short). I guess Shades is okay with multiple sock puppets now?
Whiskey self-identifies as the author of a pop-psychology book (‘Be Less Dickish’) apparently too incoherent to prevent even himself from repeatedly attempting to verbally abuse random strangers on internet posting boards with screeds of unimaginative and predictable profanity spread over tens of thousands of posts that he later scrambles to erase. If I recall correctly, Loran’s credentials are different.
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canpakes wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 9:30 pm
bill4long wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:04 pm


1. Too vague to have any meaning worth responding to. Tighten it up.
2. We all know what whiteness is and what's going on in the USA. Try again.
3. Non-responsive.
4. Natural yes. And subjective. You're nothing close to being an arbiter.

Boring.
OK, then. At least I took this farther than you were willing to, leaving you at the point of just JAQing off with no intent to discuss.

I guess that the Hound account wants to be known for weird racist hangups.
Okie dokie. Happy new year.
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bill4long wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 10:06 pm
canpakes wrote:
Tue Dec 30, 2025 9:30 pm
OK, then. At least I took this farther than you were willing to, leaving you at the point of just JAQing off with no intent to discuss.

I guess that the Hound account wants to be known for weird racist hangups.
Okie dokie. Happy new year.
To you too, Bill.
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Bill wrote: I'm a retired engineer
HVAC. what do you think about all those videos comparing the different lithium drills. like Milwaukee vs. Snap-on vs. Flex? Who the f has a Flex drill. Snap On is made in the US so no foreigners, you got one of those. Not cheap?

I watched a few of these comparisons and I just couldn't relate? Does it matter to you have fast a driver puts a 8 inch screw into a board. Any of them will do the job? I still have a Ryobi 12v from like 2014 I use and both batteries that came with it still work, although they never show they are properly charged...my favorite is a bosch 12v my friend gave me but he isn't white.

what i was thinking yesterday when I had them all out, I'd never replace or get rid of any of them, because it doesn't matter which is the best because the biggest frustration is changing bits out constantly. My bosch had the small star bit. my 12v Milwaukee had the 3/16th aircraft bit. the 18v Milwaukee had a 7/8ths hole saw bit. the little Ryobi had the Phillips bit. the big Ryobi had a regular drill bit, i dunno, maybe 3/16th. But that guy, though it lacks power, it has a level. well, I've got a 48" installer bit coming and I'm going to use that one because it has a level built in -- dumb little gimmick but in this case, it may matter. the big drivers get left out because too much power.
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Gadianton wrote:
Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:15 pm
Bill wrote: I'm a retired engineer
HVAC. what do you think about all those videos comparing the different lithium drills. like Milwaukee vs. Snap-on vs. Flex? Who the f has a Flex drill. Snap On is made in the US so no foreigners, you got one of those. Not cheap?

I watched a few of these comparisons and I just couldn't relate? Does it matter to you have fast a driver puts a 8 inch screw into a board. Any of them will do the job? I still have a Ryobi 12v from like 2014 I use and both batteries that came with it still work, although they never show they are properly charged...my favorite is a bosch 12v my friend gave me but he isn't white.

what i was thinking yesterday when I had them all out, I'd never replace or get rid of any of them, because it doesn't matter which is the best because the biggest frustration is changing bits out constantly. My bosch had the small star bit. my 12v Milwaukee had the 3/16th aircraft bit. the 18v Milwaukee had a 7/8ths hole saw bit. the little Ryobi had the Phillips bit. the big Ryobi had a regular drill bit, i dunno, maybe 3/16th. But that guy, though it lacks power, it has a level. well, I've got a 48" installer bit coming and I'm going to use that one because it has a level built in -- dumb little gimmick but in this case, it may matter. the big drivers get left out because too much power.
I'm a computer scientist who has mostly been employed in the automotive technology sector for some time. The last thing I worked on before retirement was algorithms and ancillarty issues surrounding maximizing state of charge and longevity issues for Lithium Ion batteries in electric vehicles. Not into the physical considerations of cases, nuts, bolts, and things like that. Although I just had a friend design a case for me for a project using Raspberry Pi and CAN BUS hats for my retirement cottage business. (I can't stop.)

But...

I have a Milwaukee tool chest in my garage. Does that increase my social capital score in your mind? :)
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