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[...] You see [...] energy prices coming down as the US moves away from the green new scam. [...]
Er, no you don't

How Trump’s promise to slash energy bills in half has failed across the US

How Trump’s promise to slash energy bills in half has failed across the US
Guardian analysis shows electricity bills were up 6.7% last year, and much higher in some states, and gas bills up 5.2%
Trump’s failed energy bill pledge leaves US households struggling: ‘It’s obscene’

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Oliver Milman and Dharna Noor, with data reporting by Aliya Uteuova
Sat 17 Jan 2026 15.00 GMT
Donald Trump has comprehensively failed to meet a key election promise to slash Americans’ energy bills in half within the first year of his presidency, with power prices instead surging across the US.

The average household electricity bill in the US was 6.7% more expensive in 2025 compared with the previous year, according to a Guardian analysis of data from the Energy Information Administration (EIA), the Department of Energy’s statistical arm. The increases meant that, on average, US households paid nearly $116 more across 2025 than they did in 2024.

The power bill increases have been extreme in many parts of the US, with residents of Washington DC experiencing the biggest increase, a 23% jump in electricity costs, followed by Indiana, with a 17% rise, and then Illinois, with a 15% increase, the EIA data shows. The midwest is the region of the US that has been hit by the steepest bill rises, which include utility costs laden on top of an underlying 4.9% average increase in the unit cost of the electricity itself.

On top of soaring electricity bills, US households have also been confronted by rising gas prices, which have jumped 5.2% on average in the past year, according to the EIA. As a result, there has been a spike in power disconnections for unpaid bills across many states – in New York the rate of disconnections rose fivefold from a year previous – with some households having to forgo other essentials in order to keep the lights on.

This all means that, with just days until the first anniversary of his inauguration, Trump has missed his self-imposed target of cutting bills in half in his first year. The president’s promise to slash power bills was, along with similar pledges to cut grocery costs and to reduce immigration to the US, a key pillar of his 2024 election triumph.

“You have some states where the power bills are instead up 10% or 20%, which is why so many people are angry about this now,” said Mark Wolfe, executive director of the National Energy Assistance Directors Association (NEADA).

“Instead of reducing electric bills by 50%, the president’s actions have raised the cost of home energy for all Americans. It used to be the poorest Americans who struggled with their power bills, but now we are seeing more and more middle-income families who have to make sacrifices to avoid being shut off. But there’s a limit to how much people are able to sacrifice, which we are very concerned about.”

During his election campaign, Trump repeatedly vowed to tackle power bills. “I will cut the price of energy and electricity in half,” he said at one rally in Detroit in October 2024. “12 months from January 20 – I take office on January 20 – your electric bill, including cars, air conditioning, heaters, everything, the total electric bill will be 50, 5-0 per cent, less.”

Trump told voters at a separate event that “your energy bill within 12 months will be cut in half. I’ll have your energy bill down within 12 months, throughout the country … That’s my pledge, all over the country.”

But this rhetoric has sharply reversed as electricity has replaced eggs as the most-talked-about area of inflation, with Trump recently claiming that the affordability crisis is a “hoax” and a “fake narrative” invented by his political enemies. On Tuesday, the president said he had overseen the “greatest first year in history” for the economy.

“The administration is tone-deaf about this – the president said it’s all made up, when it is in fact quite clear,” said Wolfe. “Families are struggling to pay energy bills and yet the Trump administration’s actions have made it worse.”

Angie Shaneyfelt, a 52-year-old resident of Baltimore, Maryland, has seen her bill shoot up rapidly this year, from less than $300 in December 2024 to $400 last month. In an effort to keep up with the increases, Shaneyfelt has considered taking up a second job, even signing up to deliver food with DoorDash last month.

The average household electricity bill in the US was 6.7% more expensive in 2025 compared to a year previously according to a Guardian analysis of data from the Energy Information Administration (EIA), the Department of Energy’s statistical arm.

More work hours would give her even less time with her twin 13-year-old daughters, but with another gas and electric rate hike planned for next month, she may be forced to bring in more income. “I’ve already slimmed back so much stuff,” she said. “And now I have to give up my time with my family?”

Trump pushes oil and gas – and AI
The administration’s energy policy has centered on ramping up the drilling of oil and gas – already at record levels in the US – while tearing up environmental rules that delay projects and limit the amount of pollution Americans are exposed to.

Trump has also embarked upon the aggressive promotion of an artificial intelligence industry that is raising US electricity demand for the first time in decades, while at the same time blocking numerous renewable energy projects he calls a “scam” and a “con job” but were set to provide electricity for millions of American homes.

This agenda – coupled with administration edicts to reverse the closure of ageing coal plants and to restart the overseas export of liquified natural gas, both actions that can raise costs for domestic consumers – has ensured that Trump’s election promise to cut bills had little chance of being met, experts say.

“The fundamental dynamic is that we are using more electricity than we did 12 months ago and the infrastructure isn’t keeping pace with that extra demand – if anything, we have fallen further behind,” said Abe Silverman, an expert in the energy transition at Johns Hopkins University.

The cost of Americans’ power bills largely matched overall inflation until around 2020, when they started to diverge, driven by a constellation of regionally varying factors such as utility upgrades of transmission lines, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and disruption from extreme weather events worsened by the climate crisis.

The rapid advance of AI has accelerated this trend, Silverman said, only for the administration to block available clean-energy projects, particularly offshore wind, from meeting soaring demand. In December, Trump halted construction of five windfarms off the east coast, a move that has been challenged in the courts. “We have not approved one windmill since I’ve been in office, and we’re going to keep it that way,” Trump said this month.

“If you think of it as a race, the demand-growth horse has got a shot of adrenaline and is galloping around the track at a faster pace,” Silverman said. “The supply horse is losing, by a lot. Unfortunately with the ideologically driven attack on certain technologies, such as wind and solar, it’s made it very difficult for investment to proceed and get the extra electrons we desperately need.”

As stress grows over bills, help is being cut
Electricity bills are now a “major” source of stress for more than a third of all Americans, polling has found, with colder-than-expected temperatures this winter pushing up heating bills by 9.2% on average compared with a year ago. The average household will pay $995 on heating this winter, an increase of $84 from last winter, as families struggle with electricity prices that are the highest in a decade, according to the NEADA.

As more Americans face higher bills, the Trump administration has slashed federal assistance, eliminating tax credits for home energy efficiency upgrades and attempting to scrap a federal program that helps low-income people with their energy bills, a move that would affect more than 6m households that rely on this support for heating and cooling.

Trump’s promise to bring down gasoline costs has seen more success, with retail prices at the gas pump falling by 6% on average in the last year. This decrease, the third year in a row in which gasoline prices have dropped, is due to a global glut of crude oil and a fall in demand due to concerns over an economic downturn, according to the EIA. Trump has claimed that the US seizing control of Venezuela’s oilfields will help drive down the cost of gasoline for American drivers.

Perhaps cognizant of a growing political backlash to persistently high power bills, Trump said this week he is pressing tech companies to foot the bill for the rising costs associated with their datacenters. “We are the ‘HOTTEST’ Country in the World, and Number One in AI,” the president posted on Truth Social. “Data Centers are key to that boom, and keeping Americans FREE and SECURE but, the big Technology Companies who build them must ‘pay their own way.’”

The overall cost of living is likely to remain a salient topic for voters this year, though, before the midterm elections in November that will determine the balance of power in Congress. Democrats and their allies have warned Trump that his broken promise on energy bills will haunt his fellow Republicans.


The average household electricity bill in the US was 6.7% more expensive in 2025 compared with the previous year, according to a Guardian analysis of data from the EIA. Photograph: Thalia Juarez/The Guardian
“Trump and Republicans are making life more expensive by taking energy options off the grid while demand skyrockets,” said Jesse Lee, senior adviser to Climate Power, a climate advocacy group. “We’re going to make sure that every Republican who rubber-stamps Trump’s anti-energy agenda pays the political price in 2026.”

A White House spokesperson said that lowering energy prices is a “top priority” for the president and said that Democratic-run states have seen higher costs than Republican-led states.

“The Trump administration will continue to aggressively implement President Trump’s energy dominance agenda because cheaper energy can unleash unprecedented growth in every facet of our economy,” she said.

“Are blue states going to adopt President Trump’s commonsense energy agenda to bring energy prices down in their states?”
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Noted. I take it that you don’t have an answer to the questions that I asked, or you’re not ready to give any. That’s your prerogative. I don’t have much more to go on then aside from seeing MAGA being primarily driven by their distaste of immigrants rather than any underlying desire to make life better or more affordable for Americans.
Setting a limit on immigration and enforcing it means putting the American people first.
What is it about ‘putting the American people first’ that requires us to reject immigrants? It can’t be based on what they’ll work for given that they have no control over what employers pay.
There is no distaste for immigrants.
Apparently there is, because you are labeling them as unfit to be Americans, and you’re willing to boot out even those who have followed the legal process for citizenship, seeing as how the Administration is now kicking out folks who have nearly completed the process.

Why is that?
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ajax18 wrote:
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[...] You see [...] energy prices coming down as the US moves away from the green new scam. [...]
Er, no you don't
Correct. We don’t.

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What is it about ‘putting the American people first’ that requires us to reject immigrants? It can’t be based on what they’ll work for given that they have no control over what employers pay.
Employers will always choose illegal immigrants over legal citizens because they don't have to pay taxes, healthcare, paid maternity and paternity leave, etc. When hiring and firing is relegated to the black market due to democratic socialist laws and policies being a legal citizen prices you right out of the job market. Democrat policies are bad for working class Americans, especially their immigration policy which is basically, "let them all in," or you're a racist. This platform is not working very well for your party. I'd suggest you consider changing it to something more moderate.
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What is it about ‘putting the American people first’ that requires us to reject immigrants? It can’t be based on what they’ll work for given that they have no control over what employers pay.
Employers will always choose illegal immigrants over legal citizens because they don't have to pay taxes, healthcare, paid maternity and paternity leave, etc.
That’s an employer problem, not an ‘immigrant’ problem. Do you really believe that hiring ‘under the table’ will simply disappear if every immigrant was removed from the country?

It’s not even a requirement that all employers offer a HC option, until you have 50 or more employees. And wouldn’t some paid maternity leave (also not a requirement) be seen as a ‘family friendly’ policy that will promote more births to repopulate the Homeland ..?
When hiring and firing is relegated to the black market due to democratic socialist laws and policies being a legal citizen prices you right out of the job market.
Can you name some of these ‘democratic socialist laws and policies’ that price citizens out of the labor market? Maybe expand upon what FSLA wage and overtime exemptions were authored by democratic socialists, or which laws you have in mind otherwise? Because this is still sounding like an employer problem, or the natural result of free market practices.
Democrat policies are bad for working class Americans, especially their immigration policy which is basically, "let them all in," or you're a racist.
It does seem racist if the solution is that we don’t allow immigration, period. You’d have to explain why that ‘protects’ Americans. I asked that before and you’ve yet to explain it. You’re only adding more text to the same complaint.

As well, my understanding of right-wing messaging is that these invaders aren’t even working in the first place. So why are we booting low-wage immigrants out of the country if they’re working?
This platform is not working very well for your party. I'd suggest you consider changing it to something more moderate.
I’m not a member of a political party. Never have been. From what I’ve seen, they’re very good at promoting talking points, but not a whole lot more. Trump seems to have moved the needle a bit more to also include outright aggression, division and a healthy heaping of racist rhetoric. That’s not terribly appealing.
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A detailed list of Trump's accomplishments in year 1

Trump’s Tariffs Deliver on Many Fronts
Most-Favored-Nations Deals
The “Trump Economic Boom” Is Underway
Securing the Border and Mass Deportations
Peace Through Strength: Eight Conflicts or Wars De-Escalated or Settled
One Big Beautiful Bill Act
Protecting Youth and Women from Trans Ideology
Instituting the Make America Healthy Again Agenda

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026 ... olden-age/
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That’s an employer problem, not an ‘immigrant’ problem.
It's a selective enforcement of immigration law problem. Employers should not be allowed to hire illegal immigrants under the table with impunity. Nor should illegal immigrants or even legal immigrants be permitted to steal $19 billion in sham companies while the Democrat controlled government in Minnesota purposely looks the other while continuing to demand federal funding by people who do not agree with such fraud.
It’s not even a requirement that all employers offer a HC option, until you have 50 or more employees. And wouldn’t some paid maternity leave (also not a requirement) be seen as a ‘family friendly’ policy that will promote more births to repopulate the Homeland ..?
As long as employers have to provide this for illegal immigrants as well and not just legal American citizens who don't skirt tax laws by working under the table.
You’d have to explain why that ‘protects’ Americans.
Because if employers don't have the option to hire illegal immigrants for $5/hr and stick the taxpayer with the bill for the food stamps, Section 8 housing, child daycare, medicaid, etc. then this will result in working class American's earning higher wages and lower taxes. The people who will be hurt by this policy are wealthy employers and aristocrats who more often than not are democrats, a party which now represents the elite rather than working class Americans.
As well, my understanding of right-wing messaging is that these invaders aren’t even working in the first place. So why are we booting low-wage immigrants out of the country if they’re working?
Most of them do work. We're booting them out to protect American wages and guard against higher taxes and debt due to the government having to subsidize, healthcare, groceries, housing, and other amenities that a $5/hr wage won't cover. The people who don't work are the democrat constituents who have lived on welfare for the past 7 generations. They don't work because welfare pays better than doing the jobs that only illegal immigrants are willing to do. Clearly a large number of Somali immigrants receive large portions of government money but don't even do the job the Minnesota government pays them to do.
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That’s an employer problem, not an ‘immigrant’ problem.
Anyone of any race with sufficient financial capital to allow them to make an immediate positive impact upon the US economy is welcome. We're talking about how much poverty we can afford to import into our democratic socialist economy as a country that runs a huge deficit and is $38 trillion in debt. This is a case of discriminating against poor people, not race.

But I will grant you that significant factions of the America First movement does discriminate against foreigners in favor of US citizens. But that's foreigners of all races and US citizens of all races. The issue is not race but rather national origin. It's based on the belief that US citizens should hold a level of loyalty to their own countrymen rather than simply asking which worker will be less expensive to me the employer. So when Biden says he created 100,000 jobs of which 95% went to recent immigrants or H1B-Visa recipients that doesn't mean as much to us as creating jobs in which 95% of those 100,000 jobs went to native born American citizens. As a citizen of the world first and of America second, you likely do not hold any such loyalties and I understand that. But you can't call that racism. It's economic nationalism.
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Nationalist socialism is a far-right political ideology combining extreme nationalism with authoritarian state control, often promoting ethnic or racial superiority and suppressing dissent.

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ajax18 wrote:
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A detailed list of Trump's accomplishments in year 1

Trump’s Tariffs Deliver on Many Fronts
Most-Favored-Nations Deals
The “Trump Economic Boom” Is Underway
Securing the Border and Mass Deportations
Peace Through Strength: Eight Conflicts or Wars De-Escalated or Settled
One Big Beautiful Bill Act
Protecting Youth and Women from Trans Ideology
Instituting the Make America Healthy Again Agenda

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026 ... olden-age/
If you want these claims to be taken seriously, you will have to use reliable sources. Breitbart is a sad joke. This is one of the reasons MAGA drones are so clueless.

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