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How Trump thinks "democracy" works
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The “Surrender Caucus” within the Republican Party will go down in infamy as weak and ineffective “guardians” of our Nation, who were willing to accept the certification of fraudulent presidential numbers!
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Re: How Trump thinks "democracy" works
Another great break down from r/bestof:
- DocI just want to add, because I haven't seen it anywhere, what Trump did in the call. It's called Grician Implecature. H. P. Grice developed the theory to explain and predict conversational implicatures, and describe how they arise and are understood.
But that all sounds very academic and dry. So where does this involve Trump, or a crime?
Glad you asked.
>A gangster walks into a local restaurant. The restaurant has been doing well recently, and the local criminal gangs are aware of this fact. The gangster walks over to the restaurant owner, stares conspicuously around the room, and says “This is real nice place you got here. It would be a shame if something happened to it.”
>Ostensibly, the gangster’s statement is one of fact: depending on what the “something” in question is, it may indeed be a shame if it happened to the restaurant. But of course no one reading the statement really thinks it is as innocuous as that. Everyone knows that it constitutes a thinly-veiled threat.
You know, because of the implication.
This is not the first time Trump's use of implicature has been noticed by linguistic experts. Take it away, Abbey Ehrhard at the Department of Linguistics at University of Colorado Boulder...
>In my research project, developed for Prof. Adam Hodges course on Language & Politics, I created a video essay that examined the discursive techniques of plausible deniability and conversational implicature used by our president, which are enforced by mafia-like structures of silencing. These discursive methods are not new, and Donald Trump is not the first politician to use plausible deniability.
What did Trump say?
>So what are we going to do here, folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break. You know, we have that in spades already. Or we can keep it going, but that’s not fair to the voters of Georgia, because they’re going to see what happened, and they’re going to see what happened. I mean, I’ll, I’ll take on to anybody you want with regard to [name] and her lovely daughter, a very lovely young lady, I’m sure. But [name] I will, I will take [name].
In mentioning what he wants, he also mentioned that someone has a lovely daughter as well as their own self. Should these people be worried in Georgia if Trump doesn't get what he wants?
>The people of Georgia are angry, and these numbers are going to be repeated on Monday night, along with others that we’re going to have by that time, which are much more substantial even, and the people of Georgia are angry, the people of the country are angry. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated because the 2,236 and absentee ballots, I mean, they’re all exact numbers that were, were done by accounting firms, law firms, etc. And even if you cut ’em in half, cut ’em in half and cut ’em in half again, it’s more votes than we need.
Trump needs the votes. And people are angry. He can say things like "Liberate" Michigan and armed people will be on the streets. Angry people. On Monday. And that person, they have a lovely daughter...
I mean, it's not as though he's asking the Republicans in Georgia to GIVE him votes out of thin air, from a meeting instead of from votes counted from ballot boxes, is it?
>But we didn’t want Cobb County. We wanted Fulton County. And you wouldn’t give it to us.
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>I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break. You know, we have that in spades already. Or we can keep it going...
>...you should meet tomorrow, because you have a big election coming up, and because of what you’ve done to the president, you know the people of Georgia know that this was a scam. And because of what you’ve done to the president, a lot of people aren’t going out to vote. And a lot of Republicans are going to vote negative, because they hate what you did to the president. OK, they hate it. And they’re going to vote, and you would be respected if, really respected if this thing could be straightened out before the election. You have a big election coming up on Tuesday. And therefore, I think that it really is important that you meet tomorrow and work out on these numbers.
You know. Just meet up. Specifically for an exact number of votes.
>So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.
Just find them. In the meeting. Because of angry people.
Do you know how many times he mentions the 11,779 votes he lost by?
Eleven. Eleven times in this one call.
Lock him up.
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Yet, even with Putin oceans and continents away, Trump seems loath to criticize or oppose anything Putin says or does, and has been known to take Putin's side even against the word of our own Intelligence Agencies and diplomatic corps. Wouldn't Trump be even more intimidated by Putin, if he were in closer proximity to him?
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Re: How Trump thinks "democracy" works
So, you have chosen to be both ignorant and dishonest.canpakes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:52 pmI listened to the whole thing. By all means, subs - tell us about how Trump supposes the count should be ‘corrected’.subgenius wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:54 pm
So, clearly you decided to not listen to the entire conversation, or read transcripts...rather to take the ignorant road and try to characterize the highlighted text as an invitation for fraud? Not the more obvious, and factual, position of there is nothing wrong with admitting you messed up the count with the addition of fraudulent ballots.
Make your case.
Trump's lawyers found "this many" votes and is trying to get SoS to investigate the same..they have a 1 vote discrepancy.
Its clear on the call, but you are relying in the obvious laziness found in most Democrat/Libs to be spoon fed.
Or maybe you are just like Biden, and now Kamala, relying upon plagiarism because original thought is hard for you guys.
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dude, you're breaking the stupid meter.Trump's lawyers found "this many" votes and is trying to get SoS to investigate the same..they have a 1 vote discrepancy.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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They found them in Lin Wood’s trunk.
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Re: How Trump thinks "democracy" works
What you’re trying to say is that you can’t answer the question.subgenius wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:10 amSo, you have chosen to be both ignorant and dishonest.
Trump's lawyers found "this many" votes and is trying to get SoS to investigate the same..they have a 1 vote discrepancy.
Its clear on the call, but you are relying in the obvious laziness found in most Democrat/Libs to be spoon fed.
Or maybe you are just like Biden, and now Kamala, relying upon plagiarism because original thought is hard for you guys.
Maybe reread it, and try again.