A taste of Prager U

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Note to the casual board observer that the reason Lemmie really honed in on the 1% thing is she falls in that category. She didn't like being called out as someone who enjoys the privileges her station in life affords her. Asking someone like her to rid herself of her systemic privilege is like asking someone to cut off their offending hand. They're just not going to do it, and will find any way they can to justify their excesses they enjoy.

It's time we get woke af on this board, folks.

I hereby challenge the board Leftists to really start disassembling the patriarchy, starting with yourselves. I want a commitment from each and everyone of you that you'll start donating all your ill-gotten excess wealth to organizations that work toward lifting the oppressed up. I want you to move from your enclaves to depressed neighborhoods and start living and working with the oppressed. I want you to send the oppressed to university instead of your own children. Anything less is just continuing to empower the oppressive architecture that exists.

Time to wake up and act up, folks.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

Why not? Y'all bitchin' about people not willing to explore the concepts of PragerU, or Peterson, or whomever, but the moment they do all you want to do is shut them down. It's the oddest thing...

You do NOT have the corner on the use of language, but you sure do try to shut it down. That's tyranny, and people universally reject it.

In what way have I or others in this thread at any point advocated trying to "shut down" Dennis Prager, Jordan Peterson, or any one else for that matter? I'm about as radically pro free speech as they come and, humorously, you're the one in this thread acting as an apologist for literal voter suppression.

[_EAllusion]

Note to the casual board observer that the reason Lemmie really honed in on the 1% thing is she falls in that category. She didn't like being called out as someone who enjoys the privileges her station in life affords her. Asking someone like her to rid herself of her systemic privilege is like asking someone to cut off their offending hand. They're just not going to do it, and will find any way they can to justify their excesses they enjoy.

It's time we get woke af on this board, folks.

I hereby challenge the board Leftists to really start disassembling the patriarchy, starting with yourselves. I want a commitment from each and everyone of you that you'll start donating all your ill-gotten excess wealth to organizations that work toward lifting the oppressed up. I want you to move from your enclaves to depressed neighborhoods and start living and working with the oppressed. I want you to send the oppressed to university instead of your own children. Anything less is just continuing to empower the oppressive architecture that exists.

Time to wake up and act up, folks.

- Doc

I'd sure enjoy you seeing even attempting to describe the concept of white privilege given ideas about its implications you subscribe to. This logic can be turned on anyone who thinks any kind of disadvantage anyone has is bad, though. Think people should have access to clean drinking water? Then clearly, if you are living your beliefs, you should be selling everything you have and adopting a bare minimum subsistence lifestyle so any additional wealth you accumulate can go to providing access to clean drinking water to those who lack it. Any other approach is hypocrisy.

What you are getting at is an extremely stupid version of a problem in moral theory where once altruistic imperatives are established, it's difficult to draw a line in what is sufficiently altruistic while allowing mixed motives of self-interest. Unfortunately, rather than grapple with that at all, you've decided that you've got a gotcha point that misunderstands just about every concept you are attempting to touch.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Note to the casual observer how the White Liberal (or whatever it is EA likes to describe himself as that is totes not a hard social and economic socialist) reacts when confronted with their own hypocrisy. I'm woke, af. I've listened to the oppressed and laid bare their grievances, and see how the White Liberals react to the oppressed's pleas? They laugh at it. They scoff at it. They call it stupid and absurd. Note how I didn't get a commitment from EA to do the right thing and start dismantling the patriarchy through real action, action that the oppressed has asked them to do.

That's racism. That's a fact. And that's sad.

- Doc

eta: I challenge the White males, the Liberal Progressive ones, who are of age to still bear children to get vasectomies. I'm serious! I want you to commit to not inadvertantly create any more individuals that might benefit from White privilege, and perpetuate it through inherent male and racial privilege. How many White Male Progressives on this board will commit to vasectomies or at least urge their progeny to do the same? I want to see real commitment. We need to start dismantling the hierarchy as it currently exists.

[_honorentheos]

Oh. Well. Thank YOU, Lemmie and Honor, for telling me what I think.

Whew, that's funny. Hypocrisy looks cute on you, Cam.

It helps to, you know, ignore what is being said and just color in the rest as if you were, say, a President attempting to color in a child's picture.

Hmm. Given that the last 10 pages largely consist of people demonstrating with evidence why there is a problem in Georgia but all you can do is demand an explanation for why there are still polling stations and blacks have voted in Georgia, I see where you are coming from.

I'm not the one that self-segregates. You are.

Ok.

[_EAllusion]

One of your confusions seems to be between understanding what white privilege is, which obviously exists if you have given it a modicum of thought, and conflating that with either the most naïve, radical thoughts leftists sometimes have about what to do about it and or straw man characterizations of the same. That appears to be a sincere confusion. Your "if you don't adopt this obviously non-starter solution to problems associated with white priviledge, you people who criticize racism are the real racists" on the other hand seems more likely to be disingenuous posturing. The most obvious tell is that you don't turn that internal logic on anything you purport to think.

Still looking forward to hearing in what way I've advocating "shutting down" Dennis Prager or Jordan Peterson. If Dennis Prager wants to keep making videos that misinform the pubic on just about every subject they touch, I'm cool with that, at least in the sense that I don't want anyone empowered to stop him using the implied violence of the state. If Jordan Peterson wants to continue getting rich pimping his brand of banal self-help guruism, kooky Jungian theory, and alt-right lite social commentary, I'm not going to stop him. And surely you're not the type to confuse criticism and social disapproval with "shutting down" especially since both those public figures are best known for being critics of other views, right?

[_Xenophon]

Note to the casual observer how the White Liberal (or whatever it is EA likes to describe himself as that is totes not a hard social and economic socialist) reacts when confronted with their own hypocrisy. I'm woke, af. I've listened to the oppressed and laid bare their grievances, and see how the White Liberals react to the oppressed's pleas? They laugh at it. They scoff at it. They call it stupid and absurd. Note how I didn't get a commitment from EA to do the right thing and start dismantling the patriarchy through real action, action that the oppressed has asked them to do.

That's racism. That's a fact. And that's sad.

- Doc

Doc, do you view you own continued participation in society as equally hypocritical and deserving of condemnation? I only ask because although we may disagree about the root causes of some of the problems, I think we agree that the world is not as it should be. If you truly have an issue with the 1% and the distribution of wealth within our economy, why do you still use services like Amazon? Shouldn't you be doing everything in your power to prevent your hard earned money from making it to the top? I mean why even stop with the big guys for buying; if you give money to mom-&-pop shops they will probably just give that money to the man too. If you truly believed income inequality was a problem you would give away your assets and money away until you were equal with the poorest in your area and then only live off of what you could create yourself. I mean what else would be the solution in a world where you are apparently unable to decry failures in the system and work towards a brighter future while simultaneously being in said system?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Black man to speak at White Conservative's funeral, immediately labeled as racist by White Liberals:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... e-greatest

- Doc

[_Lemmie]

you know nothing about me, cam.

You're the one who was arguing you were biased against racially, sexually and gender-wise, but then collapsed it all to this:

The 1%, in my opinion, have too much. The rest of us, the 90%'ers ...

Your arguments were rendered meaningless when you let that slip. Thinking too much about "the 1%" is your problem, cam, no one else's.