Re: do I understand the definition of a woman?
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 2:21 pm
LOL Yet you guys are still reading.
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Re: do I understand the definition of a woman?
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 2:45 pm
Re: do I understand the definition of a woman?
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:00 pm
Re: do I understand the definition of a woman?
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:56 pm
Themis, though you're right, I'm not sure what the idea that the thread has descended into madness has to do with the fact that people are occasionally checking in to see what's happening.
Re: do I understand the definition of a woman?
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 6:27 pm
To be honest, I've lost the plot as to what points anyone is trying to make. I get the impression Markk has softened on the idea biological sex is a strict binary though he seems inclined to assign the exceptions to disease or interference. Something like a developmental abnormality than an expression on a spectrum.
DT...?.no idea what point he is trying to make now.
Themis...I assume it's that biological sex isn't baked in absolutely into the code but contingent on the equivalent of a hand-copied recipe being followed in a mobile kitchen on the go. A normal ride down a freeway with all the required ingredients.available yielding different results from a bump ride on a Backcountry forest service road with wild swings in environmental conditions and ingredient substitutions that the result is sensitive to like a souffle being another matter. Or something.
Gender? Out the window. I don't get the sense any current participants differentiate between gender and sex, actually. I expect this contributes to the chaos.
DT...?.no idea what point he is trying to make now.
Themis...I assume it's that biological sex isn't baked in absolutely into the code but contingent on the equivalent of a hand-copied recipe being followed in a mobile kitchen on the go. A normal ride down a freeway with all the required ingredients.available yielding different results from a bump ride on a Backcountry forest service road with wild swings in environmental conditions and ingredient substitutions that the result is sensitive to like a souffle being another matter. Or something.
Gender? Out the window. I don't get the sense any current participants differentiate between gender and sex, actually. I expect this contributes to the chaos.
Re: do I understand the definition of a woman?
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 7:54 pm
It's more like rubber necking, Themis.
Re: do I understand the definition of a woman?
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 7:56 pm
Listen, I tried early on. My posts regarding gender vs. sex were straight up ignored. What's left is the usual vortex. This thread is destined to go the way of the Hunter Biden threads. SSDD.honorentheos wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 6:27 pm
Gender? Out the window. I don't get the sense any current participants differentiate between gender and sex, actually. I expect this contributes to the chaos.
Re: do I understand the definition of a woman?
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 10:08 pm
Absolutely, and seen.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 7:56 pmListen, I tried early on. My posts regarding gender vs. sex were straight up ignored. What's left is the usual vortex. This thread is destined to go the way of the Hunter Biden threads. SSDD.honorentheos wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 6:27 pm
Gender? Out the window. I don't get the sense any current participants differentiate between gender and sex, actually. I expect this contributes to the chaos.
There have been a few quite good comments in that direction in my opinion. Chap really said what needed said early on. Gadianton's comments mid-thread were insightful. I believe DT brought up a good example that helped illuminate the problems with demanding nature behave like an engineered system with strict binary definitions, too. Themis made good points and I'd give Markk credit for engaging and reading rather than dismissing comments.
It just seems like the ship got out to sea, lost sight of land, and forgot where it was heading.
I seem to recall a couple of responses where the idea of gender being associated with but not identical to biological sex were dismissed by more than Markk. And I think that leaves the discussion adrift. Cultural definitions for what it means to be a man vs a woman assert a (constructed) binary over the biological spectrum that would serve as a natural exit point from the current loop.
Re: do I understand the definition of a woman?
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 11:54 pm
What's so funny?Markk wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 5:06 amdoubtingthomas wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:32 am
Ephesians 5:22"Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church"
Let me ask you Markk, how exactly would Ephesians 5:22 apply to a married person with CAIS? Do you believe the Lord is cool with same sex marriage?
LOL…
Re: do I understand the definition of a woman?
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 11:56 pm
Markk believes in the creator Christian god.honorentheos wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:08 pmThere have been a few quite good comments in that direction in my opinion. Chap really said what needed said early on. Gadianton's comments mid-thread were insightful. I believe DT brought up a good example that helped illuminate the problems with demanding nature behave like an engineered system with strict binary definitions, too. Themis made good points and I'd give Markk credit for engaging and reading rather than dismissing comments.