Droopy wrote:Actually, a very strong argument can be made that it wasn't a "racist" institution in the modern sense of the term "racist," but primarily an economic institution held over from about 6,000 years of old world cultural tradition that was transplanted to North America. The concept of "racism" as we now understand it is, to a great degree, a post-civil war intellectual concept.
Thank you again, Bluffalo, for sending yourself careening off the road and substantiating my main point here, which is that you are a demagogic polemicist with barely an inkling of knowledge of what you're talking about and that you are subsisting primarily upon emotion based leftist slogans and attitudinal posturing.
Consider the CFR taken off the table.
What, after all, is the point?
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Droopy wrote:Actually, a very strong argument can be made that it wasn't a "racist" institution in the modern sense of the term "racist," but primarily an economic institution held over from about 6,000 years of old world cultural tradition that was transplanted to North America. The concept of "racism" as we now understand it is, to a great degree, a post-civil war intellectual concept.
Thank you again, Bluffalo, for sending yourself careening off the road and substantiating my main point here, which is that you are a demagogic polemicist with barely an inkling of knowledge of what you're talking about and that you are subsisting primarily upon emotion based leftist slogans and attitudinal posturing.
Consider the CFR taken off the table.
What, after all, is the point?
I think we've both been very clear in our positions here. You, in your position that slavery wasn't racist. And me, in my position that it was. :)
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
krose wrote:Droopy, That you call your wholesale acceptance and mindless parroting of hate speech from right-wing web sites "rational" and "serious discourse" is astonishingly brazen.
CFR. Put up or shut up, as with Bluffalo. 1. Define "hate speech," its core elements, perameters, and central themes. 2. Show where I've ever used it. 3. Show where my sources, to the degree I have selected and used such, have articulated any arguments or views having racist, bigoted, or anti-black content.
It's not worth the effort. Therefore, I've edited the statement and removed the words that got your panties in a wad. Even though I do think much of what is spouted on those sites is hateful, the point is the same with the word change. So no big deal; I officially withdraw "hate speech" (even though this isn't the MAD board with its CFR rules).
"The DNA of fictional populations appears to be the most susceptible to extinction." - Simon Southerton
I think we've both been very clear in our positions here. You, in your position that slavery wasn't racist. And me, in my position that it was. :)
What's clear is that, instead of disagreeing with my position on solid intellectual grounds, you've just dismissed it as being racist. When called out and asked to justify that claim, you head for cover and bow out.
As it should be.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Even though I do think much of what is spouted on those sites is hateful...
Examples?
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
I think we've both been very clear in our positions here. You, in your position that slavery wasn't racist. And me, in my position that it was. :)
What's clear is that, instead of disagreeing with my position on solid intellectual grounds, you've just dismissed it as being racist. When called out and asked to justify that claim, you head for cover and bow out.
As it should be.
You're asking me to justify my disapproval of racism now? Most decent folk recognize that racism is wrong. I guess you disagree.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
I'm glad, Droopy, that you've decided to own your racism now, even if you try to qualify and make justifications for it with your usual jumbled prose. Racists should own their own bigotry.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
You're asking me to justify my disapproval of racism now? Most decent folk recognize that racism is wrong. I guess you disagree.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
even if you try to qualify and make justifications for it
with your usual jumbled prose. Racists should own their own bigotry.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
