Trump whistleblower complaint

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Listening to Trump speak about this now ... Trump just rambles semi-incoherently and tosses around crazy assertions about a dozen other items other than whatever he was supposedly calling the press conference for. Dude needs to be impeached for no reason other than being senile. : D
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canpakes wrote:Listening to Trump speak about this now ... Trump just rambles semi-incoherently and tosses around crazy assertions about a dozen other items other than whatever he was supposedly calling the press conference for. Dude needs to be impeached for no reason other than being senile. : D


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canpakes wrote:Listening to Trump speak about this now ... Trump just rambles semi-incoherently and tosses around crazy assertions about a dozen other items other than whatever he was supposedly calling the press conference for. Dude needs to be impeached for no reason other than being senile. : D

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
EAllusion wrote:1) That was a call summary, not a transcript. 2) But Jesus Christ. This is what they are most comfortable with getting out?


I don't believing anyone would bet on the Senate voting to convict Trump with regard to impeachment, but you have to admit it was one of the most jaw-dropping, surprising votes the Senate voted 100-0 to release the whistleblower complaint. Sure it was nonbinding, still a huge turn of events from previous stonewalling. I don't really get why Mitch McConnell would lead a unanimous vote for Trump oversight. Is he playing politics? Trying to get ahead of something the public doesn't know? Is the writing on the wall being seen, in a sense? I have no idea, but it was weird.

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That initially did signal that there might be some daylight for Republicans to seriously consider letting Trump go down, but since then several GOP senators have made it very clear that they are clearing Trump no matter what. There's also now a unified talking point in right-wing messaging, being echoed by Republican Senators that goes something like, "This partial summary of a call given by a group of notorious liars doesn't include an explicit quid pro quo, so Trump did nothing wrong..."

Those seem to be some fairly strong indicators where this is heading. To that talking point, I'm not sure if it makes more sense to argue that they are being obtuse about language and Trump clearly was connecting a this for that exchange or to point out that Trump doesn't need to offer anything for his pressuring to be deeply wrong.

What I am more clear on is that Trump has committed a very long list of impeachable offenses. This is just the one that the public has found easiest to grasp and is near the top of the most serious. Impeachment investigations should not leave any stone unturned. Once this makes it's way through Congress to Republicans probably letting Trump off the hook, that's it. There needs to be maximum scrutiny of Trump's willingness to use foreign allies to undermine elections up to the election or we have a not insignificant risk of that election being a sham.
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While more than half of voters disapprove of his job performance, only 37 percent of voters say that President Trump should be impeached and removed from office, while 57 percent say no, he should not be impeached"

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-de ... aseID=3641

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Meaningless, since poll was conducted prior to the significant developments of the last few days. Poll dates 9/19-9/23.

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MissTish wrote:Meaningless, since poll was conducted prior to the significant developments of the last few days. Poll dates 9/19-9/23.

#smellthebullshit
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:...
I dunno. I think we’re witnessing the demise of our Republic, and it’s not due to evil, but rather to partisans so wrapped up in their hubris they are beyond redemption. They’re useful idiots, even called as such by their dear leader(!), and are so mired in their ignorance they’ve become incapable of reason and rational discussion.
...

Ok, settle down and realize you are more accurately describing the behavior of almost every butt-hurt Democrat/Lib for the past 3 years.
I love how you are trying to shoehorn
Stormy
Taxes
Cohen
Mueller
Pee tape
Dr Ford
concentration camps
Russia
emoluments
Stormy
Taxes
Cohen
Mueller
Pee tape
Dr Ford
concentration camps
Russia
emoluments
Stormy
Taxes
Cohen
Mueller
Pee tape
Dr Ford
concentration camps
Russia
emoluments

rinse...and...repeat
and now we are the ignorant ones because an anonymous person who did not actually witness anything filed a report about something they never saw or heard...but you're convinced....yet again.

that's cool, who needs actual evidence these days?...maybe reasonable and rational might stick to you guys this time....mired indeed.

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Good Lord - Politics are so disgustingly rancid!
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Trump is responsible for so many horrible actions that you barely can keep track of them in your head. That proves Democrats are desperate!
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