Good News! Trump is taking hydroxychloroquine!

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Re: Good News! Trump is taking hydroxychloroquine!

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Anyway, personal anecdotes is no way to measure medical risk,
Isn't that what off label drug Rx is based on?
no one thinks that hydroxchlorquine kills anyone who takes it, and it's irresponsible to encourage others to take a potentially dangerous medication for an off-label use with no evidence of efficacy and some reason to doubt it.
Do you have a specific reason that a doctor should not be allowed to Rx hydroxychloroquine after meeting and weighing the cost/benefit with the patient? I'm having a hard time seeing anything libertarian in your line of thinking here. Maybe it's been swallowed up in Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 3:12 pm
I'm having a hard time seeing anything libertarian in your line of thinking here. Maybe it's been swallowed up in Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Now this, I agree with. You certainly do have a hard time seeing things after having been swallowed up in Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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Re: Good News! Trump is taking hydroxychloroquine!

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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 4:09 am
ajax has been equating people who deliver facts with liberals for so long, one would think the consistency of the correlation might have an impression on him. But, he was born a moron, so the pattern is lost on him.

Damn liberals and their irritating fact mentioning.
That's what is the most dismaying and dangerous thing about people like ajax: that they equate accepting well established science and reality with liberalism which they are so determined to hate. When one considers how important accepting established science is to successfully practicing optometry, one would think that ajax, of all people, would know better.
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Re: Good News! Trump is taking hydroxychloroquine!

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[quote]
Isn't that what off label drug Rx is based on? [/quote]

Off-label use is more complicated than that, which you surely should know, but I am responding to your reasoning that hydroxychloroquine is safe because you know people who are taking it and they've been fine. It's possible that the drug results in an elevated risk of mortality that is unacceptably high, but doesn't touch your personal anecdotes. That's why study is needed before people just start popping pills because they heard something from a guy.

[quote]Do you have a specific reason that a doctor should not be allowed to Rx hydroxychloroquine after meeting and weighing the cost/benefit with the patient? I'm having a hard time seeing anything libertarian in your line of thinking here. Maybe it's been swallowed up in Trump Derangement Syndrome.[/quote]

I'm talking about the President of the United States actively encouraging people to take a drug. That has nothing to do with what doctors should or should not be allowed to prescribe. Can you explain how this comment addresses what I was talking about?
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"Trump Derangement Syndrome" is the ultimate cultural extension of Trump's personality. I know this term was made up on Fox News, and it's such obvious projection. No public figure in this country has been more textbook deranged than Trump himself. It's in plain view. He is clearly deranged. To support him, you must honor his deranged view.

So how do you defend it, when the subject comes up? Well, what would Trump do? Just say everyone who doesn't go along with his La La Land view of the world must be deranged. Works for him!

It would be hilarious if it weren't so damned pitiful. The stark, obvious irony is that there is no better name for this phenomenon than "Trump Derangement Syndrome."
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Agreed. The very people who suffer from TDS are the ones who use it as a pejorative toward people who are mostly sane.

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goddammit...

(accidental post).

Screw it... I'm going to take Lemmie and make Lemmie aid.

There once was a President on gin
Wouldn't touch, don't know where he's been
His failure of heart
Might be a good start
After taking hydroxychloroquine

(Nothing like a prescription drug name to screw with your meter).
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I'm talking about the President of the United States actively encouraging people to take a drug. That has nothing to do with what doctors should or should not be allowed to prescribe. Can you explain how this comment addresses what I was talking about?
He admitted he was taking hydroxychloroquine. I guess I don't agree that Trump is encouraging people to buy tablets OTC and start taking them without proper medical supervision including annual Ocular Coherence Tomography with your ophthalmologist. Would you care to guess how often we see Bull's Eye Maculopathy with patients taking hydroxychloroquine?

This decision should be made by the patient and the physician. How is it anyonelse's business?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 5:13 pm
Agreed. The very people who suffer from TDS are the ones who use it as a pejorative toward people who are mostly sane.

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Amen! No one is more seriously deranged than Trump supporters -- not even flat earthers and anti-vaccers (some of whom are very likely among the most avid Trump supporters).
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https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/ ... -covid-19/

tl;dr <- and we know our favorite racist jackoff won’t read it! - Woman Who Took Hydroxychloroquine For 19 Years To Treat Lupus Still Got COVID-19

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