TRAGEDY! Ruth Bader Ginsburg Died!

[_Themis]

Asians generally don't expect special favors for being Asian and my experience with them has generally been good same as yours. One need only look at the rising number of cases like Rachel Dolezal or Jessica Krug to understand the pendulum has swung way past "equality," a long time ago. You don't see black people trying to pass themselves off as white anymore but we are starting to see more white people trying to pass themselves off as black due to the advantages being black provides.

I certainly had bad neighbors who were white in my time in a monoracial society. The difference is that they were punished and held accountable for their crimes instead being able to play cards like systemic racism, racism etc. to absolve themselves of any personal responsibility. That's why taking race out of the equation was so much better even if the people weren't necessarily much better or worse. So what happens when people start asking to live in separate societies because of this. Well, we can't just call them white separatists because that's actually a lot closer to equality than the current rules of our mixed race society. We have to call them white supremacists so we can label white people who want equality as equal to white people who held blacks as slaves.

This is what people call racist when you make up stereotypes of people only based on race. You still haven't explained why you want your own area free of other people who don't have the same skin color as you.

[_Themis]

"There's nothing in the Constitution that says the president stops being the president in his last year," Ginsburg said in a 2016 New York Times interview in which she called for Garland to receive a confirmation vote in the Senate.

And yet he did not get a vote because they argued it was wrong and now they will. Subby will you be honest for once and admit they are being hypocritical?

[_Themis]

Both are inherently racist, irrational and immoral.

We're not killing anyone. We're not stealing anything. We just want out of what has become a perpetually bad relationship. There is nothing immoral about leaving a bad relationship.

What bad relationship? Also Some of them are killing people over their white supremacist ideologies.

[_Gunnar]

If this is true, why do you still believe in racial segregation, or that you lived better in single race societies?

Gunnar, on a related note - what are your thoughts about city environments that encourage, promote, and even endorse racial/cultural segregation in a seemingly innocuous way? for example, harlem, chinatown, devil's kitchen, little Havana?..etc

I have no real problem with that, as long as it is truly innocuous and not a result them not being permitted any other choice due to bigotry and hate. Such cultural enclaves, if done right, can be very interesting places to visit and enrich one's cultural horizons and appreciation of the best that various ethnicities have to offer, as well as a good way of helping to preserve interesting traditions and even languages and dialects that are in danger of being lost. When such environments become bad is when they are ghettoized and become places reserved for "undesirables" deemed not good enough to associate with one's own kind on a regular basis.

[_ajax18]

If Democrats held the Senate, they'd be doing the same thing Republicans did in 2016. The difference is that they don't have control of the senate now. Elections have consequences and we suffered more than our share of those partisan consequences from Obama, Pelosi, and Harry Reid.

[_ajax18]

What bad relationship? Also Some of them are killing people over their white supremacist ideologies.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/20/portland- ... -is-white/

Also Some of them are killing people over their white supremacist ideologies.

And in your mind being a white separatist justifies being murdered. This is why we need separate countries. What's funny about the case where Adam Haner was kicked unconscious by BLM protester Marquise Love for nothing more than being white (which is what racism actually is) is that Adam Haner once marched in support of Black Lives Matter.

[_subgenius]

Gunnar, on a related note - what are your thoughts about city environments that encourage, promote, and even endorse racial/cultural segregation in a seemingly innocuous way? for example, harlem, chinatown, devil's kitchen, little Havana?..etc

I have no real problem with that, as long as it is truly innocuous and not a result them not being permitted any other choice due to bigotry and hate. Such cultural enclaves, if done right,

you are suggesting Harelm was "done right"? or that the Chinatowns were "done right"?

can be very interesting places to visit and enrich one's cultural horizons and appreciation of the best that various ethnicities have to offer, as well as a good way of helping to preserve interesting traditions and even languages and dialects that are in danger of being lost.

Agreed, but they are inherently racist by such a "preservation" mindset. How do you determine which forces replace a culture/ghetto? (and I mean "ghetto" in the cultural sense, not its more often colloquial sense).

When such environments become bad is when they are ghettoized and become places reserved for "undesirables" deemed not good enough to associate with one's own kind on a regular basis.

Was not Harlem founded by such a principle? as was Chinatown? Hell's kitchen?
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I guess my question is, without homogenizing a culture (eg melting pot) how do you preserve a culture without incorporating the fundamental racist idea of "purity"?

[Guest]

Lindsay Graham

I'll tell you this – this may make you feel better, but I really don't care – if an opening comes in the last year of President Trump's term, and the primary process has started, we'll wait until the next election

Thom Tillis

The campaign is already underway. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president

But...circumstances have changed.

Hypocrite-speak for it's time to move the goalposts.

[_Gunnar]

Subgenius;

I don't agree that attempts to preserve, share and celebrate unique cultural traditions is inherently racist. Nor do I deny that establishing enclaves like Harlems and Chinatowns and other ghettos were, initially, at least, in large part a result of bigotry and intolerance. So what? That doesn't stop the current residents of these communities from working together to turn them into positive places in which to experience, preserve, celebrate and showcase the best of their unique cultural contributions to society. It still remains true, though, that there is something inherently immoral about systemic racism and segregation.

Do you really have a problem with all that?

Why do you seem so eager to categorize everyone who disagrees with you on anything as racists or bigots? Projection perhaps?

Or are you, perhaps, just trying to play the roll of a "Devils advocate?"

[Guest]

What bad relationship? Also Some of them are killing people over their white supremacist ideologies.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/20/portland- ... -is-white/

Also Some of them are killing people over their white supremacist ideologies.

And in your mind being a white separatist justifies being murdered. This is why we need separate countries. What's funny about the case where Adam Haner was kicked unconscious by BLM protester Marquise Love for nothing more than being white (which is what racism actually is) is that Adam Haner once marched in support of Black Lives Matter.

None of the leaders in the BLM movement advocate or approve of violence against whites, or even against white supremacists (except in self defense), especially not by any who claim to be members or advocates of BLM. They are intelligent enough to realize that nothing would be more damaging to their own cause than that. Should we reject all of Christianity because KKK leaders claim to be devout, Christian Fundamentalists?

The idiots guilty of that act deserve to be prosecuted and punished to the full extent of the law, even if they really are the BLM advocates they claim to be. I don't think any BLM leaders would disagree with that.