I Want My Party Back

[Kishkumen]

You have your sentence backward. Trump's standard procedure of "labeling a significant portion of the population" with numerous insults and slurs has resulted in Trump winning.

Bingo. Nailed it. Trump voters are just willing to excuse their Orange Mussolini for his entire method of engaging in his “political” freak show.

[Res Ipsa]

Progressives didn’t replace Biden with Harris. That was done by the mainstream corporate Democrats who run the party.

You keep talking about today’s Republican Party as if it’s the same as it was in the 1970s. It’s not. It is an extreme, reactionary, ideology based party that views compromise as weakness, if not treason. That became apparent during the Obama presidency when every attempt by the administration to compromise with Republicans was met by more extreme demands.

I’m not pointing this out as criticism, but as a reality check on where we find ourselves. The MAGA warriors that control the House and may control all three branches for the next two years view this as a war that must end in complete capitulation or destruction of the Democratic Party as a force in politics. They don’t vote Democrats as a loyal opposition. They view them as an existential enemy that must be vanquished.

I don’t see how there can be productive compromise with folks who don’t value compromise. Beyond fighting to keep the country from sliding into autocracy, I’m afraid we just have to wait until this authoritarian mass movement burns itself out and compromise again becomes possible.

[Hound of Heaven]

You have your sentence backward. Trump's standard procedure of "labeling a significant portion of the population" with numerous insults and slurs has resulted in Trump winning.

Bingo. Nailed it. Trump voters are just willing to excuse their Orange Mussolini for his entire method of engaging in his “political” freak show.

No, absolutely not. The Republicans are not to blame for our failure to win the election. yet I continue to see progressives on TV asserting exactly that. The reality is that we have a president who garnered 81 million votes, which is 12 million more than what Obama received. This marks the highest number of votes ever garnered by a presidential candidate in the history of presidential elections. A group of apprehensive Democratic elites sidelined the only presidential candidate in history who garnered over 80 million votes. This will be remembered as the most significant error in the history of presidential elections. If Biden remains the nominee, even with a 10% decrease in support from his 2020 voters, he would still secure the presidency in 2025. George Clooney, Oprah, the Clintons, and the Obamas have made a significant error. They became fearful and believed that investing 1.5 billion dollars would conceal Harris's shortcomings.

[Doctor Steuss]

Progressives didn’t replace Biden with Harris.[...]

Ironically (or perhaps not), the vast majority of progressives I follow on social media are blaming the Democrats picking a candidate that was too moderate, and tried to appeal to Republicans too much.

[Kishkumen]

No, absolutely not. The Republicans are not to blame for our failure to win the election. yet I continue to see progressives on TV asserting exactly that. The reality is that we have a president who garnered 81 million votes, which is 12 million more than what Obama received. This marks the highest number of votes ever garnered by a presidential candidate in the history of presidential elections. A group of apprehensive Democratic elites sidelined the only presidential candidate in history who garnered over 80 million votes. This will be remembered as the most significant error in the history of presidential elections. If Biden remains the nominee, even with a 10% decrease in support from his 2020 voters, he would still secure the presidency in 2025. George Clooney, Oprah, the Clintons, and the Obamas have made a significant error. They became fearful and believed that investing 1.5 billion dollars would conceal Harris's shortcomings.

A popular decision can still be a dumb decision.

[Dr Exiled]

Progressives didn’t replace Biden with Harris. That was done by the mainstream corporate Democrats who run the party.

You keep talking about today’s Republican Party as if it’s the same as it was in the 1970s. It’s not. It is an extreme, reactionary, ideology based party that views compromise as weakness, if not treason. That became apparent during the Obama presidency when every attempt by the administration to compromise with Republicans was met by more extreme demands.

I’m not pointing this out as criticism, but as a reality check on where we find ourselves. The MAGA warriors that control the House and may control all three branches for the next two years view this as a war that must end in complete capitulation or destruction of the Democratic Party as a force in politics. They don’t vote Democrats as a loyal opposition. They view them as an existential enemy that must be vanquished.

I don’t see how there can be productive compromise with folks who don’t value compromise. Beyond fighting to keep the country from sliding into autocracy, I’m afraid we just have to wait until this authoritarian mass movement burns itself out and compromise again becomes possible.

Perhaps the following hereinbelow has something to do with the lack of a willingness to compromise? Being called a threat to democracy and domestic terrorists when it is clearly hyperbole, a fallacy of composition, probably kills the desire to compromise. Plus, due to how the opposition usually gains significantly in the off year elections and the fact that they will be controlling the government shortly, there won't be too much compromise for the next two years.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-a ... d=89121094

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... rcna117796

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/asse ... urrection/

[Res Ipsa]

Progressives didn’t replace Biden with Harris. That was done by the mainstream corporate Democrats who run the party.

You keep talking about today’s Republican Party as if it’s the same as it was in the 1970s. It’s not. It is an extreme, reactionary, ideology based party that views compromise as weakness, if not treason. That became apparent during the Obama presidency when every attempt by the administration to compromise with Republicans was met by more extreme demands.

I’m not pointing this out as criticism, but as a reality check on where we find ourselves. The MAGA warriors that control the House and may control all three branches for the next two years view this as a war that must end in complete capitulation or destruction of the Democratic Party as a force in politics. They don’t vote Democrats as a loyal opposition. They view them as an existential enemy that must be vanquished.

I don’t see how there can be productive compromise with folks who don’t value compromise. Beyond fighting to keep the country from sliding into autocracy, I’m afraid we just have to wait until this authoritarian mass movement burns itself out and compromise again becomes possible.

Perhaps the following hereinbelow has something to do with the lack of a willingness to compromise? Being called a threat to democracy and domestic terrorists when it is clearly hyperbole, a fallacy of composition, probably kills the desire to compromise. Plus, due to how the opposition usually gains significantly in the off year elections and the fact that they will be controlling the government shortly, there won't be too much compromise for the next two years.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-a ... d=89121094

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... rcna117796

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/asse ... urrection/

Uh huh, defects in the right are always the left’s fault, right? Do we have to review the full 40 years of right wing media’s demonization of democrats?

It’s funny as hell that the party of responsibility never takes responsibility.

[Dr Exiled]

Perhaps the following hereinbelow has something to do with the lack of a willingness to compromise? Being called a threat to democracy and domestic terrorists when it is clearly hyperbole, a fallacy of composition, probably kills the desire to compromise. Plus, due to how the opposition usually gains significantly in the off year elections and the fact that they will be controlling the government shortly, there won't be too much compromise for the next two years.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-a ... d=89121094

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... rcna117796

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/asse ... urrection/

Uh huh, defects in the right are always the left’s fault, right? Do we have to review the full 40 years of right wing media’s demonization of democrats?

It’s funny as hell that the party of responsibility never takes responsibility.

It's kinda flipped, right, with the anti-Trump rhetoric? And so today, this might be the dynamic and the reason for the possible non-compromising attitude?

[canpakes]

A popular decision can still be a dumb decision.

Bell bottom jeans come to mind.

[Some Schmo]

Yeah, the Democrats are going to do some real soul searching and figure out how to appeal to damned morons now. They've really let the damned retarded down.