Well your actions in choosing to have an abortion result in the death of other other human beings. Does the Jesus you believe in respect your right to determine when life begins or when abortion is acceptable? Jesus also said in His sermon on the Mount, "Give to him that asketh of thee, and of him that would borrow of thee turn thou not away?" Did someone every ask you for something and you declined to give it to them Jersey Girl? If so, how do you think you're going to avoid being cast into everlasting fire and brimstone for doing so?Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:05 pmJesus respects agency? Did you mean to say that Jesus gives agency and judges accordingly as represented in the scripture I posted regarding the least of these? I mean he demonstrates that principle directly in that passage, right?Ajax wrote:I believe in a Jesus that respects agency and allows the laborer to decide where to draw the line on how much to use for himself and how much to give away.
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And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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Oh, Mr. “Combat by Blood” all of a sudden cares about life. The God of the Bible presides over a world soaked in blood- wars, plagues, floods- death and blood is His lust. He loves death. He demanded the sacrifice of first-borns, blessed the killing of infants in countless stories, and struck people down by the thousands when it pleased Him.ajax18 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:24 pmWell your actions in choosing to have an abortion result in the death of other other human beings. Does the Jesus you believe in respect your right to determine when life begins or when abortion is acceptable? Jesus also said in His sermon on the Mount, "Give to him that asketh of thee, and of him that would borrow of thee turn thou not away?" Did someone every ask you for something and you declined to give it to them Jersey Girl? If so, how do you think you're going to avoid being cast into everlasting fire and brimstone for doing so?Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:05 pm
Jesus respects agency? Did you mean to say that Jesus gives agency and judges accordingly as represented in the scripture I posted regarding the least of these? I mean he demonstrates that principle directly in that passage, right?
Meanwhile, for every human who’s lived and DIED (dozens of billions of DEATHS), countless more were “aborted” naturally- an estimated 50-80% of all fertilized eggs fail to implant or are miscarried without a woman even realizing it. That’s not a policy choice; it’s how human biology works under God’s supposed “design.” He’s a God of Blood and Death.
And for all your pious posturing, damned Ajax, your own Bible prescribes abortion when it suits Him. Look it up. Numbers 5:11–31- a priest is supposed to make a woman drink “bitter water” to see if she’s been unfaithful. If it destroys her ability to bear children, well, that’s God’s judgment. So much for your “absolute view” on when life begins. Even the Jews didn’t give a crap about the sAnCtItY oF LiFe, what with abortions and genocides waged with their God’s blood-soaked blessings.
So please, spare us your the holier-than-thou act. The God you worship isn’t nearly as obsessed with “protecting life” as you pretend. He’s a deity who presides over death- He created it and sometimes orders it Himself. He IS Death.
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Yes, we'll all be judged. That's why I said it's between each individual and God alone because only God has the knowledge necessary to make a judgment like that. I don't even believe the prophet will be able to make judgments like that, much less Bernie Sanders or Kishkumen. It's really not that much different than what you mean when you say, "My body my choice." I say, "My labor, my choice."Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:05 pmJesus respects agency? Did you mean to say that Jesus gives agency and judges accordingly as represented in the scripture I posted regarding the least of these? I mean he demonstrates that principle directly in that passage, right?Ajax wrote:I believe in a Jesus that respects agency and allows the laborer to decide where to draw the line on how much to use for himself and how much to give away.
If you're to take the scriptures completely literally and leave no room for common sense and exceptions, consider the verse where Jesus says in the sermon on the mount, "Give to him that asketh of thee and to him that would borrow of thee turn thou not away." That means anyone who has ever turned down a beggar or for that matter has any private property left at all is destined for eternal hellfire.
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Here we come to it. The words of Jesus are only to be followed if they do not conflict with common sense. And on top of that, there can be "exceptions" if doing what he says may lead to inconvenience or risk ... Just the way Jesus led his earthly life. Not.
That's how you get Christianity as practised by many people who are doing fairly well in the world, but like to have a bit of religion around for comfort, reassurance, and respectability. It never makes them do anything that makes them feel uncomfortable, but the glorious thing is that one can always cite scripture when someone acts in ways you dislike and you need to slap them down. Those people don't get any 'expections' made for them, natch.
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That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.