Obiwan wrote:It's one thing to read something for "educational purposes", to help one become wise, and another to believe in said ideology. Loughner clearly not only had several leftist works but believed in and embrased most of them per other evidences and testimony's.
Besides The Communist Manifesto, where is the left-wing tilt to his reading list?
“One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” “Brave New World” “Animal Farm” “Fahrenheit 451” “Republic” “Meno” "Mein Kampf" “Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland” “Peter Pan” “The Phantom Tollbooth” “We, the Living”
I don't see it. Unless you you think that Never Never Land is symbolic of the class struggles of the proletariat vs the bourgeois.
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Obiwan wrote:Conservatives would agree, that's why the attempted slam by liberals of trying to blaim this thing on conservatives was so offensive. But even further, our point is to show that if he WAS actually "anything", he was more leftist than he was conservative.
After all, that I can recall, every person that tried to kill an American President has been a leftist. From Lincoln, to JFK, to Reagan, and now some Democrats. Not all leftists are cohesive and of one mind either, sometimes they can be enemies with each other. But ideologically speaking, they are very close and related, believing many/most of the same kinds of things.
Darn! Did I just bolster the conservative view? :). I just think that in this instance, it's not conservative or liberal, just schizophrenic. As was Hinckley (Reagan's shooter).
Still, Presidential assassins are a very small group. I'll agree that Oswald was most likely a Communist. I think Booth was definitely conservative, though (Republicans were the liberals in those days).
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Obiwan wrote:After all, that I can recall, every person that tried to kill an American President has been a leftist. From Lincoln, to JFK, to Reagan, and now some Democrats.
This is so laughably false I can't believe it's being repeated again. Do you know nothing about history? Holy cow.
Buffalo wrote:Sure, if he were a pedant. Anyone who lists both The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf as favorites is just looking to impress people with his political reading list.
Exactly. If you're at all familiar with the Communist Manifesto - like what it says about the monetary system, for example - you know how ridiculous the suggestion is that Loughner was influenced or even read it is.
Eric wrote:Then why say that? What source were you just repeating without verifying?
You don't have to follow someone to closely to know something about him. From LaRouche himself:
I know. That's how I know you were wrong about it. So what source were you just repeating that was incorrect and made you look like a fool, so that other people know not to use it?
The subject is the implications of the difference between the British gold standard, and the gold reserve standard used effectively during approximately 1945-1965. I am committed to the reintroduction of the latter, as an integral part of a new, emergency world monetary-financial system modelled in large degree on the successful features of the 1945-1965 period of post-war reconstruction in the Americas, western Europe,and Japan.
I suggest expanding your horizons beyond wikipedia (and Sam Harris' drivel.)
Hahaha. What does Sam Harris have to do with anything? You do know that the gold standard is not the gold reserve standard, right? They are not the same, you dear sweet Christian Warrior. Hahaha.
Calculus Crusader wrote: You don't have to follow someone to closely to know something about him. From LaRouche himself:
I know. That's how I know you were wrong about it. So what source were you just repeating that was incorrect and made you look like a fool, so that other people know not to use it?
The subject is the implications of the difference between the British gold standard, and the gold reserve standard used effectively during approximately 1945-1965. I am committed to the reintroduction of the latter, as an integral part of a new, emergency world monetary-financial system modelled in large degree on the successful features of the 1945-1965 period of post-war reconstruction in the Americas, western Europe,and Japan.
I suggest expanding your horizons beyond wikipedia (and Sam Harris' drivel.)
Hahaha. What does Sam Harris have to do with anything? You do know that the gold standard is not the gold reserve standard, right? They are not the same, you dear sweet Christian Warrior. Hahaha.
You are a transparent moron and poser Eric. Unlike LaRouche, I do not believe for a New York minute that you made any such distinction before now. You are just desperately trying to save face after being thumped.
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Eric wrote: Exactly. If you're at all familiar with the Communist Manifesto - like what it says about the monetary system, for example - you know how ridiculous the suggestion is that Loughner was influenced or even read it is.
People, even non-crazy ones, often hold inconsistent ideas. It is also the case that one need not agree with someone in all points to be an admirer.
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Eric wrote: Exactly. If you're at all familiar with the Communist Manifesto - like what it says about the monetary system, for example - you know how ridiculous the suggestion is that Loughner was influenced or even read it is.
People, even non-crazy ones, often hold inconsistent ideas. It is also the case that one need not agree with someone in all points to be an admirer.
Don't forget the Phantom Tollbooth! Who knows what crazy liberal ideas he got from that one!
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
