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beastie wrote:Yeah, I figured that was just wishful thinking. The way our current system works, no doubt if you had the money you'd be stockpiling weapons beside your homemade bombs. Fortunately for your neighbors, you don't have that kind of money.


And what is "immoral" or "crazy" if one is skilled, has the talents etc. to stockpile weapons etc.?
You don't think "Homosexuals" are "crazy", so why would someone who is different than you, with different skills, talents and interests be "crazy"? Oh, I know, because of the below. Religionists and conservatives already are crazy.

by the way, my wishing you were forbidden to have guns has nothing to do with being a Mormon, as any person with the IQ of a squirrel would realize.


Oh, it has everything to do with my being Mormon and a Conservative.
You hate my arguments against your evil, and for conservatism and Mormonism, you think I'm stupid, ignorant, crazy, a zealot, etc. etc., all because you don't like my logic, you don't like my beliefs, and you don't like my condemning your ACTUAL evil and wrongs.

The only people with the IQ of a squirrel is you. If I believed the same as you, judged the same as you, you would think me one of the "home-boys" whether I liked guns or not, as some of your "home-boys" likely do. I know you buddy.... Fool yourself, but you can't fool me.

One other thing, to show how bigoted you people are, you judge an online persona.
If you actually knew me in real life you would know I'm far from your judgments.
I'm not some kook can't talk red-neck eccentric. But you all think I am don't you? Of course you do, which is exactly why you are "afraid" that I have been legally banned from owning weapons or might stockpile weapons. You operate according to fear and ignorance, not light and truth.
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So tell us, ldsfaq, how you convinced the authorities that you merited a permit to construct bombs in your basement. Enquiring minds want to know.
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ldsfaqs wrote:
And what is "immoral" or "crazy" if one is skilled, has the talents etc. to stockpile weapons etc.?
You don't think "Homosexuals" are "crazy", so why would someone who is different than you, with different skills, talents and interests be "crazy"? Oh, I know, because of the below. Religionists and conservatives already are crazy.


What a bunch of garbled nonsense. What does skill and talent have to do with stockpiling weapons?

Certainly some religionists and conservatives are crazy. (see: Timothy McVeigh). But some liberals and atheists are also crazy. (see: unibomber)


Oh, it has everything to do with my being Mormon and a Conservative.
You hate my arguments against your evil, and for conservatism and Mormonism, you think I'm stupid, ignorant, crazy, a zealot, etc. etc., all because you don't like my logic, you don't like my beliefs, and you don't like my condemning your ACTUAL evil and wrongs.

The only people with the IQ of a squirrel is you. If I believed the same as you, judged the same as you, you would think me one of the "home-boys" whether I liked guns or not, as some of your "home-boys" likely do. I know you buddy.... Fool yourself, but you can't fool me.

One other thing, to show how bigoted you people are, you judge an online persona.
If you actually knew me in real life you would know I'm far from your judgments.
I'm not some kook can't talk red-neck eccentric. But you all think I am don't you? Of course you do, which is exactly why you are "afraid" that I have been legally banned from owning weapons or might stockpile weapons. You operate according to fear and ignorance, not light and truth.


Ldsfaq, the reason you are a potentially unstable and even dangerous person is because, like Timothy McVeigh and the unibomber, you easily divide the world into good and evil, black and white. You dehumanize people who have different ideas and beliefs than you do. Liberals don't just have different ideas about the role of government: liberals are evil liars who want to destroy freedom. Exmormons aren't just people who no longer believe in the LDS church: exmormons are evil, dark liars, controlled by Satan.

When an individual of limited reasoning ability embraces such a cartoonish worldview, and then starts building bombs and stockpiling weapons, that individual's neighbors should be concerned.
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Believe what you want Beastie, but you continuing to open your mouth making judgments of someone you don't know in any way whatsoever makes YOU the very thing you apply to me. Further, you lie and misrepresent. I've never said anything about ex-mormons being this evil or that evil. I've known plenty of ex-mormons who aren't "your kind" of evil. Your evil is what you do and believe that is actually evil, not for being an ex-mormon. Get a frigging CLUE!

I judge only what you do and say. I don't say anything about you otherwise.
But you and others most certainly say things about me for which you know nothing about.

I condemn your actual actions PERIOD, you condemn a "fantasy". So, who really has the "cartoonish" worldview?
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One other thing for the mentally challenged in this thread....

I said I "have" Bomb making materials, and I said I "have" made them before to learn.
I never said I'm currently going around making them, I frankly don't care and have no idea my local laws.

Second, information especially for the ignorant is the fact that anyone who actually knows how to make Bombs knows very well that for MOST kinds of bombs, nearly EVERY HOUSEHOLD has such materials.

Your ignorance is not my being "crazy". Knowledge is power, knowledge is survival.
I'm not you, and you're not me. Mind your own business. I think your crazy about other things, but does that mean you "technically" are, no it doesn't. We simply don't agree, and one is likely more on the side of the light than the other. Still doesn't make either side crazy, so stop with the ignorant bigotry.
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ldsfaqs wrote:I said I "have" Bomb making materials, and I said I "have" made them before to learn.


What did you do with them after you made them? Did you blow them up? Give them away? Dismantle them? Store them?

This is a problem for even the government. They have lots of bombs. They can't blow them all up, but yet they can't easily dismantle them all, and yet they can't really store them easily either. Depending on the bomb, they might have to be checked daily over the course of decades and moved in and out of their little bomb houses as environment must be carefully controlled; then there's the protected access and all that.

I also know this is a problem for private citizens too, some good friends of mine growing up found out the hard way that the expertise that goes into making the bomb is step one. Not sure I want to recount the story.

Anyway, if your bomb-making skills are anything like your argumentation skills, I don't think your neighbors have anything to worry about, as some of my colleagues here have asserted. You're safe, in my book.
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Sort of a back-handed not a compliment compliment..... But hey. :lol:
As to the stuff I made. Sure, tested some of them, dismantled others.

Oh, and some other information for the mix. I once worked as an Office Assistant for my local National Guard, and I went out on maneuvers with them a few times, and guess what we did? We learned how to detect, dismantle, and basic theory in bomb, mine etc. making.

Also, did you people forget I'm an ex-Marine? What do you think I learned there?
Further, I've had several "In-Depth" Background checks, not just your "basic" this or that in work, getting firearms etc.

So sorry you "conspiracy" kooks.... I'm not one of your "monsters" "freaks" "nuts" like you want me to be.

Just an FYI, more debunking of your "lying" about others and things in your ignorance and bigotry.
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ldsfaqs wrote:Sort of a back-handed not a compliment compliment..... But hey. :lol:
As to the stuff I made. Sure, tested some of them, dismantled others.

Oh, and some other information for the mix. I once worked as an Office Assistant for my local National Guard, and I went out on maneuvers with them a few times, and guess what we did? We learned how to detect, dismantle, and basic theory in bomb, mine etc. making.

Also, did you people forget I'm an ex-Marine? What do you think I learned there?
Further, I've had several "In-Depth" Background checks, not just your "basic" this or that in work, getting firearms etc.

So sorry you "conspiracy" kooks.... I'm not one of your "monsters" "freaks" "nuts" like you want me to be.

Just an FYI, more debunking of your "lying" about others and things in your ignorance and bigotry.


Not so fast.
Maybe everything is OK and you are a fine citizen but
isn't there an interest picture emerging? Maybe a red flag that calls for possible investigation?

Correct me if I am wrong, but haven't you explicitly or implicitly stated that

1) You make and test bombs at home and keep the necessary materials for constructing more.
2) You don't know or care what the laws are.
3) You are angry at the government--specifically angry with current elected officals in the executive branch.
4) You assert the right to make a nuclear reactor in your basement and also see no problem with collecting ingredients and equipment for making drugs in your basement.

Maybe we could even add that you might have been in a cultic religious ritual where you covenanted to dedicate your whole life and all your resources to the building of a theocratic kingdom that you believe will one day rule the whole earth?

Isn't that about right? LOL

Personally, I think you are probably a safe member of society but I fear the emerging picture might disturb some more sensitive folks.
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Tarski wrote:Not so fast.
Maybe everything is OK and you are a fine citizen but
isn't there an interest picture emerging? Maybe a red flag that calls for possible investigation?

Correct me if I am wrong, but haven't you explicitly or implicitly stated that

1) You make and test bombs at home and keep the necessary materials for constructing more.
2) You don't know or care what the laws are.
3) You are angry at the government--specifically angry with current elected officals in the executive branch.
4) You assert the right to make a nuclear reactor in your basement and also see no problem with collecting ingredients and equipment for making drugs in your basement.

Maybe we could even add that you might have been in a cultic religious ritual where you covenanted to dedicate your whole life and all your resources to the building of a theocratic kingdom that you believe will one day rule the whole earth?

Isn't that about right? LOL

Personally, I think you are probably a safe member of society but I fear the emerging picture might disturb some more sensitive folks.


not so fast indeed...in fact if you, and you seemingly do, have knowledge of such and do not contact the proper authorities you too may be the subject of an "investigation".
I see no option for you other than a quick and immediate phone call to Homeland security.
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subgenius wrote:
Tarski wrote:Not so fast.
Maybe everything is OK and you are a fine citizen but
isn't there an interest picture emerging? Maybe a red flag that calls for possible investigation?

Correct me if I am wrong, but haven't you explicitly or implicitly stated that

1) You make and test bombs at home and keep the necessary materials for constructing more.
2) You don't know or care what the laws are.
3) You are angry at the government--specifically angry with current elected officals in the executive branch.
4) You assert the right to make a nuclear reactor in your basement and also see no problem with collecting ingredients and equipment for making drugs in your basement.

Maybe we could even add that you might have been in a cultic religious ritual where you covenanted to dedicate your whole life and all your resources to the building of a theocratic kingdom that you believe will one day rule the whole earth?

Isn't that about right? LOL

Personally, I think you are probably a safe member of society but I fear the emerging picture might disturb some more sensitive folks.


not so fast indeed...in fact if you, and you seemingly do, have knowledge of such and do not contact the proper authorities you too may be the subject of an "investigation".
I see no option for you other than a quick and immediate phone call to Homeland security.
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LOL
Good point. Please PM me your name and address so I can follow your advice.
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