What are the chances of Trump's political survival to 2020?

[_Chap]

fail upward.

Or did you mean 'fall upward'? 'Fail upward' is good too, of course! But he does appear to have used his inherited money to defy the normal laws of reputational gravity.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

fail upward.

Or did you mean 'fall upward'? 'Fail upward' is good too, of course! But he does appear to have used his inherited money to defy the normal laws of reputational gravity.

I agree with both of you, but EA's term is so, so appropriate. Unfortunately for all of us, Trump failing upward means we're all getting pulled into his gravity well of insanity and it's getting dicier the longer he's in office.

He needs to go along with his cancerous family.

- Doc

[_Chap]

He needs to go along with his cancerous family.

Apparently he does feel that need, yes.

He also needs to go, along with his cancerous family.

(Sorry, DrC. I just love commas and what they can do. Try not to cuss me out.)

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

It's all, good Chap,

- Doc

[_subgenius]

Trump broke campaign finance laws when he authorized payoffs to his, uh, secret trysts. That's a felony. ...

campaign finance law Literally applies to campaign finances not Literally to personal finances.
Literally not a felony.
Literally.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Trump broke campaign finance laws when he authorized payoffs to his, uh, secret trysts. That's a felony. ...

campaign finance law Literally applies to campaign finances not Literally to personal finances.
Literally not a felony.
Literally.

You don't read anything, so I can't really help you read something you don't read. It's all right there for you to read. You just need to do it.

On a related note, it's incredibly disappointing that a fellow American would be so willfully ignorant with regard to Trump's unethical, criminal, and moral turpitude. But it is what it is.

- Doc

[_honorentheos]

Trump broke campaign finance laws when he authorized payoffs to his, uh, secret trysts. That's a felony. ...

campaign finance law Literally applies to campaign finances not Literally to personal finances.
Literally not a felony.
Literally.

To make this argument, you'd have to show that Cohen made the payments to benefit Trump in his personal life rather than benefiting his attempts to become President. Given the hush money was paid out to keep damaging stories out of the press rather than being told to his wife I'd say you have a tough road ahead in making that case in a convincing manner. The fact Cohen has stated in court that the purpose of the payments was to influence the campaign is part of the legal case being laid out now. So...good luck with that, subbie!

[_subgenius]

You don't read anything, so I can't really help you read something you don't read. It's all right there for you to read. You just need to do it.

On a related note, it's incredibly disappointing that a fellow American would be so willfully ignorant with regard to Trump's unethical, criminal, and moral turpitude. But it is what it is.

- Doc

Yeah, i Literally read where it Literally was not a felony to Literally use personal money for Literally personal payments. ...which is Literally not a felony and Literally not a campaign finance violation.
But that's only Literally what your cited article Literally printed...so maybe Literally doesn't Literally mean what you Literally think it means.

And Literally, unethical behavior is not a felony...Literally.
Your sudden high moral ground for President is admirable...based mostly on fantasy and partisan parlor tricks, but still admirable (better late than never, amiright?)

[_subgenius]

campaign finance law Literally applies to campaign finances not Literally to personal finances.
Literally not a felony.
Literally.

To make this argument, you'd have to show that Cohen made the payments to benefit Trump in his personal life rather than benefiting his attempts to become President. Given the hush money was paid out to keep damaging stories out of the press rather than being told to his wife I'd say you have a tough road ahead in making that case in a convincing manner. The fact Cohen has stated in court that the purpose of the payments was to influence the campaign is part of the legal case being laid out now. So...good luck with that, subbie!

Cohen said this.
Trump said that.
that's not how a campaign finance felony is proven.

You have mistakenly placed the burden on Trump to prove his innocence when that's not how the law or reason works.

So you need more luck than Trump....or at least some actual evidence of a violation committed by Trump.
And Docs claim for a violation above has yet to be supported by evidence.

[_honorentheos]

In reality I don't need to do anything. The facts as they present themselves are what they are and it takes a pretty big blind spot to imagine Trump isn't dead to rights on this one.