Sanders wins Iowa

[_EAllusion]

I don't like Joe Biden and think it is a terrible idea to vote for him on a number of fronts, so I'm not exactly sad about it appearing like his support might be collapsing. On the other hand, I can't help but wonder if the Ukraine attacks actually worked to an extent on him, which would be horrible.

[_Some Schmo]

I don't like Joe Biden and think it is a terrible idea to vote for him on a number of fronts, so I'm not exactly sad about it appearing like his support might be collapsing. On the other hand, I can't help but wonder if the Ukraine attacks actually worked to an extent on him, which would be horrible.

I don't think there's any doubt the attacks worked, in that now Democrat voters are afraid he's not as much a lock to beat Trump as they used to think.

Some Democrat voters may actually be fooled by the attacks, but I think it's more a matter of pragmatism.

[_Icarus]

[Alf'Omega]

There is absolutely no doubt the GOP will manufacture some scandal on whomever the eventual nominee is. You can take that to the bank.

Bill Maher had a fake political ad on his show last week about Trump's brain, showing several incidents of him slurring his speech and unable to come up with the words he's trying to find. I think Bloomberg should take that one and blast it everywhere. It's damn good.

ETA: Here it is.

[_EAllusion]

If Sanders wins the nomination, people like Markk are about to become very concerned about the propriety of Jane Sanders. That much I'm sure of.

[_DoubtingThomas]

Caucuses were good for Sanders in 2016, but I don't recall him massively outperforming the polling in them.

In the 2016 Iowa caucuses Sanders was losing by 4 percentage points in the RCP Average. For the 2020 Iowa caucuses Emerson (margin of error of +/- 3.3%), DFP/Civiqs, and the New York Times had Sanders winning by 7 percentage points.

[_Jersey Girl]

ETA: Here it is.

Holy cow.

[_EAllusion]

Caucuses were good for Sanders in 2016, but I don't recall him massively outperforming the polling in them.

In the 2016 Iowa caucuses Sanders was losing by 4 percentage points in the RCP Average. For the 2020 Iowa caucuses Emerson (margin of error of +/- 3.3%), DFP/Civiqs, and the New York Times had Sanders winning by 7 percentage points.

So, by "caucuses" you mean "one caucus?" And you think that a real clear politics polling average error in one direction can simply be added in the opposite direction in a completely different election with different candidates?

How'd that work out for you?

[_moksha]

99% in and it looks like Buttigieg won with Sanders in a close second place.

Buttigieg and Klobuchar as the Democratic ticket?

[_subgenius]

99% in and it looks like Buttigieg won with Sanders in a close second place.

Buttigieg and Klobuchar as the Democratic ticket?

pick anyone, it doesn't really matter.