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I don't think any BLM leaders would disagree with that.

Have the leaders of BLM ever said this in a pubic statement? I"m sure that should be pretty easy to find right?

This is what BLM protests do. They stir up anger. They block traffic. Then when an unsuspecting motorist runs into a human road block and tries to get away, they accuse them of trying to run people over with their vehicles. Hence they feel justified in assaulting and killing the people in the vehicle. Most of the liberal DAs in these leftist cities aren't going to press charges or even keep these idiots in jail. They actually did set a $260k high bail for pseudo security officer Marquis Love, probably because his attempted murder was caught on camera. I doubt he serves more than a few months in jail. He'll be back out and doing the same kind thing soon enough.

I don't agree that attempts to preserve, share and celebrate unique cultural traditions is inherently racist.

Unless it's a WASP doing it right?

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And in your mind being a white separatist justifies being murdered. This is why we need separate countries. What's funny about the case where Adam Haner was kicked unconscious by BLM protester Marquise Love for nothing more than being white (which is what racism actually is) is that Adam Haner once marched in support of Black Lives Matter.

Why do you make up lies so much Ajax? So some black people attack a person for being white and this justifies creating a country for only white people. Who decides who is white enough Ajax? Do Jewish people get to come in? I'm sure some of those white separatists may not think they belong. How about people who are not black or white, or those who have some of each. What about Indians? Could one who has just a little Indian in them but they look white get in. Would you let Chuck Norris in Ajax?

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Why do you make up lies so much Ajax? So some black people attack a person for being white and this justifies creating a country for only white people. Who decides who is white enough Ajax? Do Jewish people get to come in? I'm sure some of those white separatists may not think they belong. How about people who are not black or white, or those who have some of each. What about Indians? Could one who has just a little Indian in them but they look white get in. Would you let Chuck Norris in Ajax?

I'm fine with having anyone who doesn't think I owe them something because of what my ancestors did to their ancestors. Anyone who wants to keep the old grudges alive is not welcome. I'm happy to welcome anyone willing to work for a living, anyone who doesn't think they're owed any special favors based on their race, anyone who doesn't constantly gripe about white privilege and carry on the legacy of racism through reverse racism. I'd basically have a color blind society. That pretty much excludes all liberal democrats. And in the view of those on this board, this pretty much makes me a white supremacist based on their idiotic definition of the words. But that's pretty much all I've ever asked for.

And I do think more black people than one might at first expect based on how they vote would come to this country. People like Candace Owens who says that if you commit the crime you do the time, regardless of your race or your political party. I could see people like Larry Elder and Thomas Sowell coming in. I could actually see a lot of Latino people, who mainly just need an opportunity. But we're not going to have women looking to have kids out of wedlock in order to collect welfare. The liberals can have those. And of course we'd have a ton of Asian people who are as self reliant and responsible a people as they come. We'd have Jews like Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin. We could even have Muslims willing to leave the death to America ideology they were raised in and come carve out a good life for themselves through patience and hard work. So yeah, it's not really a race, it's an ideology, one that is diametrically opposed to the current Democratic party.

[_Themis]

Why do you make up lies so much Ajax? So some black people attack a person for being white and this justifies creating a country for only white people. Who decides who is white enough Ajax? Do Jewish people get to come in? I'm sure some of those white separatists may not think they belong. How about people who are not black or white, or those who have some of each. What about Indians? Could one who has just a little Indian in them but they look white get in. Would you let Chuck Norris in Ajax?

I'm fine with having anyone who doesn't think I owe them something because of what my ancestors did to their ancestors. Anyone who wants to keep the old grudges alive is not welcome. I'm happy to welcome anyone willing to work for a living, anyone who doesn't think they're owed any special favors based on their race, anyone who doesn't constantly gripe about white privilege and carry on the legacy of racism through reverse racism. I'd basically have a color blind society. That pretty much excludes all liberal democrats. And in the view of those on this board, this pretty much makes me a white supremacist based on their idiotic definition of the words. But that's pretty much all I've ever asked for.

And I do think more black people than one might at first expect based on how they vote would come to this country. People like Candace Owens who says that if you commit the crime you do the time, regardless of your race or your political party. I could see people like Larry Elder and Thomas Sowell coming in. I could actually see a lot of Latino people, who mainly just need an opportunity. But we're not going to have women looking to have kids out of wedlock in order to collect welfare. The liberals can have those. And of course we'd have a ton of Asian people who are as self reliant and responsible a people as they come. We'd have Jews like Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin. We could even have Muslims willing to leave the death to America ideology they were raised in and come carve out a good life for themselves through patience and hard work. So yeah, it's not really a race, it's an ideology, one that is diametrically opposed to the current Democratic party.

So why do you call yourself a white separatist? So in this country you want are you going to kick out any who disagrees with you politically. Its sounds like you want a one party state.

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So why do you call yourself a white separatist?

I committed the error of letting my opponents define me. Usually when one has ultraconservative views like mine, you end up being called a racist white supremacist. I've never apologized for that or let it intimidate me. But when I thought about it, I realized there are good conservatives of all races and I would gladly welcome them into my country. So I can't really call myself a white supremacist or separatist in my view. But you would still call me a white supremacist based on what I wrote above, correct? I know Kevin Graham would. I do want a one party state free of Antifa, Black Lives Matter, Maxine Waters, Jesse Jackson Junior, Nancy Pelosi, Al Sharpton, and people like Kevin Graham. If that means I'm a white supremacist according to the liberal elite definition, than fine. I'd still like to have seen these people gone yesterday.

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Subgenius;

I don't agree that attempts to preserve, share and celebrate unique cultural traditions is inherently racist. Nor do I deny that establishing enclaves like Harlems and Chinatowns and other ghettos were, initially, at least, in large part a result of bigotry and intolerance. So what? That doesn't stop the current residents of these communities from working together to turn them into positive places in which to experience, preserve, celebrate and showcase the best of their unique cultural contributions to society. It still remains true, though, that there is something inherently immoral about systemic racism and segregation.

Do you really have a problem with all that?

Why do you seem so eager to categorize everyone who disagrees with you on anything as racists or bigots? Projection perhaps?

Or are you, perhaps, just trying to play the roll of a "Devils advocate?"

Gunnar,
You seem to understand, so allow me to elaborate.
I believe in freedom of speech and thought. The higher offense associated with "Hate" speech and "Hate" crime are the biggest assaults on liberty in our modern times. With the former being a direct assault on the Constitution and the latter just being a shameful devaluation of crime (eg tell a white woman that her being raped wasn't so bad since the rapist didn't do it for the color of her skin or for her religious affiliation).
Racism seems to be a term of political convenience these days , and is used only to persecute those who refuse, for whatever reason, to celebrate all differences in all people. This seems to be the sole basis for the "morality" you invoke above. This can only be reasoned by a belief that God created all men and women as equal - correct? (careful, this moral argument starts and ends with the divine).
So, i am not sure that there is something "inherently immoral" about recognizing and forming opinions about a person and/or people based upon their skin color / culture. The "immorality" seems to be imposed by whims and winds. It boils down to the idea that our nation's morality should be based upon personal liberty. Do I have the liberty to believe that Chinese people can congregate and manipulate the built environment in such a way as to perpetuate their culture ? And am i also free to believe that Black people can freely impose their culture on that same environment? Then how do we resolve a dispute when these interests overlap and become in conflict?
Do we find resolve by forsaking the culture of both and require that they melt into one big homogenized pot ? Or do we arbitrarily assign one with a greater value over the other as measured by the political wind du jour?
For me, it comes down to the only morality that should exist, and that is personal liberty.

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So why do you call yourself a white separatist?

I committed the error of letting my opponents define me.

They didn't define you, you did. They didn't come up with white separatist, you did. Your posts have always shown a lot of racism. Especially the ones at storm-front.

But you would still call me a white supremacist based on what I wrote above, correct?

No, on your many posts here and over at storm-front. I can accept people can change, but I look for behavior that reflects a change and your posts don't reflect that change. Hopefully you can change for the better.

I do want a one party state free of Antifa, Black Lives Matter, Maxine Waters, Jesse Jackson Junior, Nancy Pelosi, Al Sharpton, and people like Kevin Graham. If that means I'm a white supremacist according to the liberal elite definition, than fine. I'd still like to have seen these people gone yesterday.

This means you are anti democratic and fascist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

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This means you are anti democratic and fascist.

The left isn't exactly in favor of democracy when they don't win. What they want to do to Trump by impeaching him if he does his constitutional duty of filling the vacancy in the Supreme Court is more fascist than Trump has ever been.

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This means you are anti democratic and fascist.

The left isn't exactly in favor of democracy when they don't win. What they want to do to Trump by impeaching him if he does his constitutional duty of filling the vacancy in the Supreme Court is more fascist than Trump has ever been.

While I don't agree that Trump filling the vacancy so close to the election and the end of his term is, by itself, valid grounds for impeachment, I still think it is wrong for him to do so. Especially considering how Obama was denied the opportunity to appoint a Justice for at least a year before the end of his last term of office. However, even without that, there are more than adequate grounds to impeach Trump, and I have no doubt that still more will yet come to light. He fully deserved to be convicted during his last impeachment. There are more things he could have and should have been charged with than just the charges actually used against him.

[_Themis]

This means you are anti democratic and fascist.

The left isn't exactly in favor of democracy when they don't win. .

I think some on the far left are not very democratic, but that is not an excuse for you to want the US to be an authoritarian regime of the far right.

What they want to do to Trump by impeaching him if he does his constitutional duty of filling the vacancy in the Supreme Court is more fascist than Trump has ever been

Don't complain about dirty tricks of democrats when they are done because of republicans starting first doing dirty tricks to win. I notice you don't complain about republicans when Obama nominated someone 8 months before and election and they would not allow a vote so that a republican might win the presidency. Can you show you criticized republicans on this issue? I'm 99.99999% sure you didn't. You are very hypocritical. I agree the democrats may play dirty, but it's the reality when the other side decides not to play fair first.