...... twice I have asked God directly why Trump couldn't just die.
Whoa!
Well, if we go back to the Bible, it looks like David sometimes felt the same way as Jersey Girl.
Psalm 139 verse 19 ff in the 1549 version of the Book of Common Prayer reads:
Wilt thou not slay the wicked, O God : depart from me, ye blood-thirsty men.
For they speak unrighteously against thee : and thine enemies take thy Name in vain.
Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee : and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
Yea, I hate them right sore : even as though they were mine enemies.
[The colons above are not normal punctuation marks - they just show where the psalm-chant changes.]
Was Jersey Girl in bad company here?
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Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
Well, if we go back to the Bible, it looks like David sometimes felt the same way as Jersey Girl.
Psalm 139 verse 19 ff in the 1549 version of the Book of Common Prayer reads:
Wilt thou not slay the wicked, O God : depart from me, ye blood-thirsty men.
For they speak unrighteously against thee : and thine enemies take thy Name in vain.
Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee : and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
Yea, I hate them right sore : even as though they were mine enemies.
[The colons above are not normal punctuation marks - they just show where the psalm-chant changes.]
Was Jersey Girl in bad company here?
Quotes from Trump, the political and spiritual guidestone for most of Christian MAGA America:
On Forgiving Enemies:
"Well, then I wouldn't be real, would I? I mean, if I said to you, sure, the easy answer to that is 'Oh, yes, I could forgive'. The answer is no. I want to be honest, no."
On Hating Opponents:
"Before the judgment, no. I do hate some of my enemies…I probably cannot do that, no, because I do hate some of my enemies and I always will."
Considering how easily Trump classifies whole swaths of people as his enemies, I’d suppose that much of modern American Christianity has strayed a bit from whatever it claimed to be.
A former MTV reality TV show turned MAGA Transportation Secretary and a former plumber turned MAGA Secretary of Homeland Security decided to pay a bunch of money for AI, ironically named Air Space Intelligence, to run air control for the nation.
It promptly broke, and threw the nation’s air traffic into chaos.
Air Space Intelligence spent $1.5M on lobbying, and landed the FAA contract worth up to $875.9 million. It’s rumored it put a bunch of money into a slush fund of which $1.5M made its way to Duffy’s son-in-law’s congressional campaign.
This is the swampiest swamp crap that exists.
Edit: This is how much 80M US voters hate women. Two times we could’ve elected competent women who would’ve put competent people into positions of trust, instead we chose to have a part-time news entertainment host as SecDef, the wife of Big Time Wrestling as SecEd, this crap I posted above, a cocaine addict as the FBI Director, and a first family of thieves and drug addicts that make Hunter Biden look like a goddaman saint.
Hiring a part-time news entertainment anchor as SecDef, what could go wrong?
Quotes from Trump, the political and spiritual guidestone for most of Christian MAGA America:
On Forgiving Enemies:
"Well, then I wouldn't be real, would I? I mean, if I said to you, sure, the easy answer to that is 'Oh, yes, I could forgive'. The answer is no. I want to be honest, no."
On Hating Opponents:
"Before the judgment, no. I do hate some of my enemies…I probably cannot do that, no, because I do hate some of my enemies and I always will."
Considering how easily Trump classifies whole swaths of people as his enemies, I’d suppose that much of modern American Christianity has strayed a bit from whatever it claimed to be.
Well, he might find it uncomfortable to have a Church of England priest at his bedside during his last hours - the 1549 Prayer Book again, in the Office for the Visitation of the Sick:
Then shall the minister examine whether he be in charitie with all the woride. Exhortyng hym to forgeve from the botome of his herte al persons, that have offended hym, and yf he have offended other, to aske them forgevenesse: and where he hathe done injurye or wrong to any manne, that he make amendes to hys uttermoste power. And if he have not afore disposed his goodes, let him then make his will. (But men must be oft admonished that they set an ordre for their temporall goodees and landes whan they be in helth.) And also to declare his debtes, what he oweth, and what is owing to him: for discharging of his conscience, and quietnesse of his executours.* The minister may not forget nor omitte to move the sicke person (and that moste earnestly) to lyberalitie towarde the poore.
The bolded bit might take rather a long time to deal with ... but in mainstream theology there as a consensus that a person who has repented of wrong they have done to others will of themselves wish to make amends - if, that is, they have actually repented as opposed to mere mouthing of the words "I'm sorry".
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
