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ceeboo wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:56 pm
)Why should I, a politically right American citizen, have my tax dollars going to support such a thing? Why should half of the country, who hold politically right views, have their tax dollars going to support an organization that is so clearly one sided.

The answer, to 99% of reasonable Americans, is that it shouldn't.

Ceeboo, you can use this ‘argument’ on every line item of the US budget.

Your’s isn’t an ‘argument’ as much as it’s a tantrum.
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Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:17 pm
It's a BS complaint. There are tons of things the government spends money on that I receive no benefit from. Everybody does. So whining that your tax dollars go to something you don't use is infantile.

I didn't want 45 million spent on a poorly organized military parade that benefitted only one person, but I don't hear ceeboo complaining about that damned nonsense. And I think we all know why. He doesn't give a damn about his taxes going to NPR. He cares that his brand of misinformation wins the day.
Perhaps Ceeboo feels that his intellectual appetite is fully served solely by PragerU and other conservative sites, such that he no longer needs to be exposed to new information or different viewpoints.
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Or conservatives could consider the distance between them and factual information is the problem.

Dr Cam gave a good example of an issue where there is disagreement, conflicting evidence and also very real differing human experiences. is the reporting and editorializing at NPR on the topic uneven? Certainly. But I would argue we would be hard pressed to find a more nuanced approach where voices from all sides are being given a platform to be heard.

Genuinely I think we are conditioned now to expect reporting to be a certain way that isn't good for journalism and much of the response that the OP represents isn't a good faith complaint so much as it being more of the poison of news being partisan and propaganda. Not seeing ones sides propaganda being platformed doesn't mean the problem is the other sides propaganda is. And that is the question I see here. Is it really the case that NPR is just government funded leftist FOX News? I'd argue not and anyone who actually consumed it for news would be more aware of this.
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canpakes wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:31 pm
Perhaps Ceeboo feels that his intellectual appetite is fully served solely by PragerU and other conservative sites, such that he no longer needs to be exposed to new information or different viewpoints.
If his intellectual appetite is fully served solely by PragerU and other conservative sites, he doesn't have much of an intellectual appetite.

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honorentheos wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:36 pm
Genuinely I think we are conditioned now to expect reporting to be a certain way that isn't good for journalism and much of the response that the OP represents isn't a good faith complaint so much as it being more of the poison of news being partisan and propaganda.
As was presciently pointed out even by comedian Jon Stewart during an appearance on Crossfire over two decades ago.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Ste ... _Crossfire

It’s still both fun and tragic to watch, after all this time:

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NPR is funded (partially - debated about how much of their funding comes from the federal government) by tax dollars.
Is it debated? I thought it was pretty much an accepted fact, given their public disclosures and federal outlays being mandated as public record through Obama's legislation, that about 1% of their funding comes from the federal government (another approximately 5% from state and local government grants).

Incidentally, part of that federal funding is used for maintaining the broadcasting infrastructure for rural areas to have access to the radio (through things like the PRSS). I think it's pretty doubtful corporations will step in to front the millions of dollars every year so a handful of people can hear a Pepsi commercial. Cutting funding for rural areas to receive tornado warnings is a creative way to stick it to the libs though... right in their bleeding hearts.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:39 pm
NPR is funded (partially - debated about how much of their funding comes from the federal government) by tax dollars.
Is it debated? I thought it was pretty much an accepted fact,
Accepted as fact by you? Of course!
given their public disclosures and federal outlays being mandated as public record through Obama's legislation, that about 1% of their funding comes from the federal government (another approximately 5% from state and local government grants).

By Warner Todd Huston
April 14, 2023 at 1:55pm
Recently, Elon Musk labeled NPR and PBS as “government-funded media” on Twitter, angering both organizations. And while it is well-known that they do receive taxpayer dollars, it is less known just how much of their total budget comes from the government.

Musk was applauded by many last week for adding a note to NPR’s Twitter page stating that NPR is “US state-affiliated media” because some of its funding comes from the federal government.

He later changed that to “government-funded media” to be more precise. A similar notice was appended to the PBS Twitter page.

NPR, which has often been criticized for its left-wing partisan reporting, was incensed by the move.

The broadcaster claimed it is fully independent of the government and practices “fact-based journalism.” It also said it was quitting Twitter over the change to its page. PBS too left the platform.

“While federal money is important to the overall public media system, NPR gets less than 1% of its annual budget, on average, from federal sources,” NPR said on its website.

Musk was unmoved. He maintained that the new label was justified and noted that “NPR literally says Federal funding is *essential* on their website right now.”

In another tweet, Musk wrote simply, “Defund [NPR].”

So, just how much money does NPR get from government or government-affiliated sources?

As noted above, NPR says only 1 percent of its annual budget comes from federal sources. But according to its own numbers, the broadcaster gets a lot more from government sources than it lets on.

For fiscal year 2020, for instance, the broadcaster’s affiliate stations received 8 percent of their revenue from federal appropriations via the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

They also got 10 percent from colleges and universities — which themselves are publicly funded — and another 5 percent from federal, state and local governments. That is 23 percent, not 1 percent.

As Musk pointed out, NPR also states on its website that “federal funding is essential to public radio’s service to the American public and its continuation is critical for both stations and program producers, including NPR.”

Are PBS and NPR "government-funded media"?
Yes No

For its part, PBS gets even more from government or government-affiliated sources.

On its website, the TV broadcaster says it gets 15 percent of its revenue from the federal government, 13 percent from state governments, 3 percent from local governments, and 8 percent from universities. That’s a total of 39 percent.

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CONCLUSION

Musk is 100 percent correct. Both NPR and PBS receive substantial financial support from government sources, so it is completely fair and accurate to label them “government-funded media.”





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Senator Kennedy discusses NPR funding and a few examples of NPR article headlines (about 13 minutes)

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oh well if Elon Musk, a man who is such a pathological liar that he feels the need to lie about being good at VIDEO GAMES says so, who could ever disagree with that? lmao. Why don't we see what Jordan Peterson has to say about it, since we're sourcing people who are never able to tell the truth about anything :lol:
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Molok wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:01 pm
oh well if Elon Musk, a man who is such a pathological liar that he feels the need to lie about being good at VIDEO GAMES says so, who could ever disagree with that? lmao. Why don't we see what Jordan Peterson has to say about it, since we're sourcing people who are never able to tell the truth about anything :lol:
It's so unfortunate and sad to what TDS has done to so many American citizens.
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ceeboo wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:50 pm
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:39 pm

Is it debated? I thought it was pretty much an accepted fact,
Accepted as fact by you? Of course!
Yes, by me. And others that know how to use the publicly available sources for non-profit disclosures, and the legally mandated public resources for government spending.
given their public disclosures and federal outlays being mandated as public record through Obama's legislation, that about 1% of their funding comes from the federal government (another approximately 5% from state and local government grants).
For fiscal year 2020, for instance, the broadcaster’s affiliate stations received 8 percent of their revenue from federal appropriations via the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

They also got 10 percent from colleges and universities — which themselves are publicly funded — and another 5 percent from federal, state and local governments. That is 23 percent, not 1 percent.
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This is not how math works with determining how much of NPR's overall budget is direct federal funding. I'm embarrassed for the person who took the time to write this, and the editor that read it and decided it was ok to publish. Unsurprising that an article that holds up the DOGE dolt as a source would also have difficulty with math.

I'm going to go out on a limb without Googling that between the juxtaposition of ridiculously poor math smashed together to hoist up a preconceived ideology while also pedestalling Musk, that this was a Breitbart piece.
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