Nicely put. I resonate with these aspirations.Physics Guy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 7:31 pmI want to pursue the physics of Newton: not the things that Newton thought were true, but Newton's experience of seeing a bit of the real truth. In the same way, I want to see and serve the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: not the god that the people who told the patriarch stories thought they were serving, but the truth that those people partially glimpsed.
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"He disturbs the laws of his country, he forces himself upon women, and he puts men to death without trial.” ~Otanes on the monarch, Herodotus Histories 3.80.
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Just to pick one apple out of the bunch, how is it exactly that he attacks veterans?Doctor Steuss wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 8:31 pmThat the temperament of an unrepentant adjudicated rapist -- with a documented history of bragging about walking in on children getting dressed, who sexualized his own infant daughter on national TV, and oversaw the forced sterilization of migrant women, who regularly attacks women, veterans, journalists, steals from charities, engages in constant wage theft, and regularly targets "the least of these" for his malignant hatred -- is only offensive to "some" is deeply depressing.He does have his own temperament which could be thought of as offensive to some.
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OK - now we are leaving religion behind, and getting down to political specifics. So let's be political. I leave it to others to describe Trump's treatment of US veterans, but may we just know something about where you are coming from in political terms?msnobody wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 3:37 amJust to pick one apple out of the bunch, how is it exactly that he attacks veterans?Doctor Steuss wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 8:31 pm
That the temperament of an unrepentant adjudicated rapist -- with a documented history of bragging about walking in on children getting dressed, who sexualized his own infant daughter on national TV, and oversaw the forced sterilization of migrant women, who regularly attacks women, veterans, journalists, steals from charities, engages in constant wage theft, and regularly targets "the least of these" for his malignant hatred -- is only offensive to "some" is deeply depressing.
If you are a US citizen, who did you vote for in the last US presidential election? And if you voted for Trump, are you currently broadly satisfied with his actions as President since he was elected?
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Making…msnobody wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 3:37 amJust to pick one apple out of the bunch, how is it exactly that he attacks veterans?Doctor Steuss wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 8:31 pm
That the temperament of an unrepentant adjudicated rapist -- with a documented history of bragging about walking in on children getting dressed, who sexualized his own infant daughter on national TV, and oversaw the forced sterilization of migrant women, who regularly attacks women, veterans, journalists, steals from charities, engages in constant wage theft, and regularly targets "the least of these" for his malignant hatred -- is only offensive to "some" is deeply depressing.
…might be an example.…deep cuts across the federal government that continue to cost veterans their jobs and jeopardize essential care through the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) that veterans and their caregivers rely on every day.
Might be an example.Children of deployed US troops will no longer get automatic American citizenship if born overseas during deployment. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019)
What do you think, another example?Trump deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019)
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This is a troll question or so wildly ignorant that I fear for our democracy.msnobody wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 3:37 amJust to pick one apple out of the bunch, how is it exactly that he attacks veterans?Doctor Steuss wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 8:31 pm
That the temperament of an unrepentant adjudicated rapist -- with a documented history of bragging about walking in on children getting dressed, who sexualized his own infant daughter on national TV, and oversaw the forced sterilization of migrant women, who regularly attacks women, veterans, journalists, steals from charities, engages in constant wage theft, and regularly targets "the least of these" for his malignant hatred -- is only offensive to "some" is deeply depressing.

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No doubt. Sounds like someone is suffering from Fox-Only brain.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:07 pmThis is a troll question or so wildly ignorant that I fear for our democracy.Just to pick one apple out of the bunch, how is it exactly that he attacks veterans?
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Is PBS-Only brain still available?Some Schmo wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 3:11 pmNo doubt. Sounds like someone is suffering from Fox-Only brain.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:07 pmThis is a troll question or so wildly ignorant that I fear for our democracy.
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Goddamn, she nailed that. Exactly how I feel.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Thu Dec 11, 2025 4:08 pmI think I need to repost this rant:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Trumpvirus/s/EIVvzlVHff
What do I think of all this? Have the damned life you voted for. They voted with hate, and this is what it feels like when the hate comes back to them. There’s no god playing 4d chess with their souls, or ours, and there’s no way out that involves thoughts or prayers. There is no god. Only us.
Religion is for people whose existential fear is greater than their common sense. It's also the favored cover for hypocrites.
The god idea is popular with desperate people.
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Not a troll question. Just something I know a little bit about. I see no reduction in benefits and the healthcare is pretty awesome. At least Mr. Nobody and other veterans I know think so. Employees are being held accountable to excel at their jobs. Granted, there has been reduction in force within the federal government as a whole, affecting the VA somewhat. I was just curious.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:07 pmThis is a troll question or so wildly ignorant that I fear for our democracy.
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