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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:42 pm
Today's right-wing is more like a suicide cult than a political party.
Oh my God. This perfectly captures the ground reality of their movement.

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Thanks, Analytics, for your valuable first hand report on what is going there, and for answering my question. It definitely appears from what you told us that despite their poverty and relative scarcity of resources they have a more rational response to the realities of the pandemic than demonstrated by the Trump administration.
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Chap wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:21 am
Jersey Girl wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:30 am
This thread was intended to be about the successes of the Biden administration. Now the focus is ajax
The problem is that the whole ethos of the MD board is (appropriately enough for a board whose primary topic is Mormonism in its broadest sense) "opposition in all things". Its participants are not on the whole (apart from a select few in Terrestrial, and those who choose to post in Celestial)) here because they want a seminar where we all get to talk about topics of common interest as informed and mutually respectful citizens, interested in learning from others' points of view. Many of us are here, to varying degrees, because we have a taste for a kind of no-contact cage fighting with people who probably regard our points of view as misguided, pernicious, and possibly even mendacious.

Why? Well, for me at least it gives me a break the time during a day that I mostly spend carefully evaluating evidence and argument, and slowly constructing structures of cool rational persuasion. And talking, at least by proxy, to a raving MAGA hat wearer or a QAnon believer is just good fun.

The only problem is, as I have often pointed out, that if we get too good at the cage game, our opponents retire hurt. That's what seems to have happened to subgenius. The only ones who survive are those who neither attend to counter-argument or just don't care much about it, so long as they get to go on posting. So on the Terrestrial forum we are left with mentalgymnast, and down here we have ajax18.

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:30 am
This thread was intended to be about the successes of the Biden administration. Now the focus is ajax
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Chumps
Chap wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:21 am
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These people are precious resources for our amusement. They are an endangered species. Be grateful to them for sticking around!
Jersey Girl wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:30 am
Sod off, chump.
You will miss ajax when he is gone.
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Republicans apparently are furious with the Biden administration for being so successful in mitigating the pandemic now, especially with regards to vaccinations. Biden and the Democrats are evil for convincingly demonstrating how abysmally incompetent Trump was by comparison. It really appears to me that Republicans would rather see millions more people risk serious disease and die than see the Pandemic fade away end under a Democratic administration.

Yet they seem to be trying to claim credit for the covid relief plan that all of the Republican legislators in Congress voted against, even though a strong majority of even Republican voters enthusiastically support it.
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Gunnar wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:38 pm
Republicans apparently are furious with the Biden administration for being so successful in mitigating the pandemic now, especially with regards to vaccinations. Biden and the Democrats are evil for convincingly demonstrating how abysmally incompetent Trump was by comparison. It really appears to me that Republicans would rather see millions more people risk serious disease and die than see the Pandemic fade away end under a Democratic administration.

Yet they seem to be trying to claim credit for the covid relief plan that all of the Republican legislators in Congress voted against, even though a strong majority of even Republican voters enthusiastically support it.
I don't think anything horrifies them more than that the newly elected Democratic administration might succeed in fixing what the Trump administration broke.
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Chap wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:04 am
You will miss ajax when he is gone.
I like the side of ajax that wants to be a good father to his daughter.

We might otherwise disagree on many other things, but disagreement between people is a pretty normal state of affairs all around.
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I like the side of ajax that wants to be a good father to his daughter.
You would have enjoyed watching our Daddy/Daughter date. We went for our usual practice hitting tennis balls. Then I let her ride in the front seat of my truck as long as she promised not to tell her mother. We took her Viking warrior princess braids out. I rolled down the windows and let her beautiful long dirty blonde hair blow in the wind. It doesn't take much to make a kindergartner happy nor me either when I'm with her.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:08 pm
Gadianton wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:42 pm
Today's right-wing is more like a suicide cult than a political party.
Oh my God. This perfectly captures the ground reality of their movement.

- Doc
One thing you can count on is that their leaders and media people will forever lie. Their grand leader is the most famous and prolific liar in political history. McConnell's promise of a scorched-earth Senate is both an example of a bad descriptor and a lie.
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Moksha wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:51 am
One thing you can count on is that their leaders and media people will forever lie. Their grand leader is the most famous and prolific liar in political history. McConnell's promise of a scorched-earth Senate is both an example of a bad descriptor and a lie.
It appears likely that McConnell will retire before the end of his current term. Under current Kentucky law, this would mean that he would probably be replaced by a Democrat, as the current Governor of Kentucky is a Democrat. However, McConnell seems determined to create a "fly in the ointment."
Under Kentucky state law, the governor is tasked with selecting an individual to replace a senator temporarily till the next state-wide elections. McConnell is working on a plan to change that

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is reportedly planning to step down before the end of his term. Serving since 1985, the Kentucky senator — who was elected to his seventh term in 2020 — is reportedly working with Kentucky's state legislature on an exit strategy. The plan involves passing a bill through the state legislature that would strip power from the hands of the Governor to appoint McConnell's successor and instead make it the duty of the Republican Party in the state.
I'm sure, though, that even if McConnell succeeds in getting the Kentucky legislature to pass such a bill, the very next time a Republican is elected as Governor, the Republicans will do their darnedest to change the law back to what it is now.
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