The coronavirus spread updated in real time

[_ajax18]

How do they social distance being piled on top of each other in buses the way they do? Or did they all just now get automobiles? Are they really sanitizing those buses every time someone gets on and off? That's impossible.

They're a young generally healthy population where the weak don't survive. I'd venture to say they have stronger immune systems than people in the developed world just from living in the hot, crowded and stinky tropical conditions they're born into.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Brazil has a 6.8% fatality rate.

https://www.coronatracker.com/country/br

Peru has a 2.8% fr. Denmark’s fr is 5.1%. Mexico is at 10%.

I think the fatality rate mostly has to do with whether or not people are complying with the distancing measures in place. I spent the last week road tripping throughout Utah with sidebars to Colorado and Arizona. If I had to guess I’d say most, ~80% non-workers, aren’t wearing masks. The only place I witnessed near universal mask usage was in Moab, where it bends hard to the Left.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

Case fatality rate is dependent on what is getting classified as a case, and there are wide enough gaps between that from country to country that it's not a useful raw stat.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

So, what’s Ajax getting at?

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

[quote]How do they social distance being piled on top of each other in buses the way they do? Or did they all just now get automobiles? Are they really sanitizing those buses every time someone gets on and off? That's impossible.[/quote]One way to solve this dilemma is to not get on the bus.

One interesting thing here is that Mexico hasn't been particularly good when compared to the world in general, but when the comparison is the United States, it's easy to compare favorably. It's not going to be a surprise if things get drastically worse in the country. We, unfortunately, have a critical mass of Ajaxes which has hurt us in a number of ways.

[quote]They're a young generally healthy population where the weak don't survive. I'd venture to say they have stronger immune systems than people in the developed world just from living in the hot, crowded and stinky tropical conditions they're born into.[/quote]Jesus Christ.

Is that your explanation for South Korea? New Zealand? Japan? Germany?

[_EAllusion]

[quote="Doctor CamNC4Me" post_id=1224187 time=1589156009 user_id=3779]
So, what’s Ajax getting at?

- Doc
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If 80+ thousand people have died in the US and counting, his comments make no sense. So...

Read material coming out of the Brietbart corner of the world lately? Ajax does.

[_Jersey Girl]

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[_ajax18]

Case fatality rate is dependent on what is getting classified as a case, and there are wide enough gaps between that from country to country that it's not a useful raw stat.

Now you're talking some sense. This is a big part of what I'm getting at. Doc pointed out a couple months ago that there is no way we're getting accurate data on this in the US.

The simple fact that people live much more spaced out and own automobiles rather than using public transportation means people in the US (except New York) are already social distancing more than large and crowded third world cities.

How many people has this economic shutdown and untold financial misery really saved?

[_EAllusion]

If by "economic shutdown" you mean people's voluntary social distancing that has had negative impact on business coupled secondarily with local orders closing down and limiting or reconfiguring certain business activity, then the answer is it's saving somewhere between a couple hundred thousand and a couple million lives in the near to medium term. Because that amount of illness and death has a tremendous negative impact on economic activity, it's also staved off even more dire economic circumstances. Lots of people dying = bad for the economy.

You just got done explaining how you are not in favor of standard social distance measures, but also that you must, just must be superior to cities in countries you think of in cold war "3rd world" terms. Prior to seeing your posts, I figured LA's own serious problems with the epidemic might produce favoring some caution. Apparently a few weeks of being stuck with the family has got you saying that there are some things worse than death.

[_EAllusion]

One of the interesting things we're seeing is that the same people who are most strident in wanting stay-at-home measures rescinded as quickly as possible also tend to be the most stridently opposed to voluntary measures to open public places as safely as possible. You'd think someone in favor of opening sit-down restaurants now would be the most in favor of widespread adoption of face mask use or not crowding public places, but nope. Lot of death cult energy going on over there.