The Gadiantons Triumph Again... and Satan Laugheth.

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Re: The Gadiantons Triumph Again... and Satan Laugheth.

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Droopy wrote:Actually, I don't think my lawyer is going to be interested in my politics or personal philosophy regarding social, moral, and cultural issues, but in the substance of the case.


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Re: The Gadiantons Triumph Again... and Satan Laugheth.

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ajax18 wrote:I think you'll find that the group is no better off than they were before. Socialized medicine is a method used by the high ranking "individuals," in the left to gain power over the group.


Change "medicine" to "defense" and "left" to "right" and you just talked yourself out of the American military.
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Re: The Gadiantons Triumph Again... and Satan Laugheth.

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ajax18 wrote:i think you'll find that the group is no better off than they were before. Socialized medicine is a method used by the high ranking "individuals," in the left to gain power over the group.


If 'the group is no better off than they were before", why hasn't there been a gigantic push to scrap medicare?

Compulsory Sickness Insurance was adopted by Germany in 1883, at the instigation of Otto Von Bismark, under German Emperor Fredrick III. Theodore Roosevelt, 2-term Republican President, advocated National Health Care as part of his Bull Moose Party Platform in 1912. National Health Service was created in England under Prime Minister Winston Churchill. In 1993 Republican John Chafee of Rhode Island proposed an individual mandate plan remarkably similar to Obama's (and Romney's) that was backed by 23 Republican Senators, including 1996 candidate Bob Dole.

Now Bismark, Fredrick III, Teddy Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, John Chafee and Robert Dole have been called many things, but I don't think they've ever been called Leftists.

As far as ' to gain power over the group', I'm not sure what you mean. The British and Germans have free elections. Power switches back and forth between liberals and conservatives. In Britain some industries have been privatized, but socialized medicine remains.
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