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_EAllusion
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ajax18 wrote:My taxes sure came out better than last year.


Remember when you pretended to care about deficits?

One thing we've already learned from North Korea is that negotiating from a position of strength rather than apologizing for our country and trying to befriend Islamic extremists works a lot better.


North Korea does demonstrate that it is better for a country to have nuclear weapons when negotiating with the US than to capitulate to the US nonproliferation efforts. That is a horrible lesson for the planet, but that's clearly not what you mean. Instead what you mean is something near the exact opposite of reality in which the US concessions to North Korea is spun as the US turning the screws on them whereas the US negotiated and enforced pause in Iran's nuclear program is "befriending Islamic extremists."
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ajax18 wrote:Hawkeye, I am really starting to think that people like you, EAllusion, and Schmo are bigger threats to my quality of life and liberty than North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, or any rogue state could ever be.


Starting? Oh, I think you should be honest with yourself. I do genenuinly wonder how much of you is playing along with cynical lying and how much you are duped into what essentially is a cult. I go back and forth on it.
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ajax18 wrote:Hawkeye, I am really starting to think that people like you, EAllusion, and Schmo are bigger threats to my quality of life and liberty than North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, or any rogue state could ever be.

Well, sure. It's not like North Korea is going to spend any cycles pointing out that racism isn't all it's cracked up to be.

It's reflective of your character that you equate a kleptocracy/kakistocracy and a dash of authoritarianism with "liberty."
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Remember when you pretended to care about deficits?


I still care about deficits. Your answer to deficits is to raise taxes. My answer is to cut welfare spending. For you fewer people on food stamps and disability is a tragedy. For me, it's something I celebrate. For you high unemployment and more free early retirements are good because it liberates people to do what they want to do. I prefer low unemployment where everyone is expected to work and contribute.
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ajax18 wrote:For you fewer people on food stamps and disability is a tragedy. For me, it's something I celebrate.

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I prefer low unemployment where everyone is expected to work and contribute.

I would celebrate less people on food stamps if they earned enough money to not need food stamps. We're talking about full-time workers on food stamps. Were you aware of that, or just don't care?

You seem to be A-OK with a certain part of humanity starving. That's really something to celebrate, huh? Is this the supremacy of whiteness talking?
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Hey Cleanser, who are you to try to tell people what to do?

Watch Hannity? How about GFY.
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ajax18 wrote:My taxes sure came out better than last year.

Can you elaborate? My understanding is that only limited aspects of the new tax law - such as for medical expenses and personal casualty loss - were retroactive into 2017, and very little else. How did any new tax law help your situation?

Regardless, you might consider putting aside some of the ‘winnings’ into an investment account payable to your children after your death, as they’ll be on the hook threefold for whatever you gain. In this case, maybe ‘winning’ should be relabeled for what it really is - ‘taking’, from your children’s generation, considering how Trump is rapidly increasing the debt through his newly-reduced tax rates for his well-to-do pals.


ajax18 wrote:And there hasn't been any shortage of Medicaid.

How is this a help, and what did Trump do to make more Medicaid recipients?


ajax18 wrote:Illegal immigration went down before DJT even won the election.

It seems to be back on the rise. But how did this help your situation? Were they stealing frames from your cases?


ajax18 wrote:One thing we've already learned from North Korea is that negotiating from a position of strength rather than apologizing for our country and trying to befriend Islamic extremists works a lot better.

Right. Instead, we’ll promise to be Kim’s friend and if he ever actually comes through on denuclearization, we can start shipping pallets full of cash to him and his regime-mates. In the meantime we’ve abruptly halted exercises that we’ve run for decades because Kim thought they were ‘provocative’. You guys used to do apoplectic freakouts when Obama bowed too low to some foreign leader somewhere; now Trump kowtows on demand to both Kim and Putin. : )

In the meantime, North Korea has done nothing more than make a promise as they have a dozen times before, the Middle East is falling under greater influence of Russia, China continues to steal US intellectual property while Trump stomps over our own DoC in an effort to prop up a Chinese company that sells our tech to bad actors like Iran, Social Security and Medicare are going to be out of cash even sooner than expected, debt continues to increase, your healthcare costs are getting exponentially more expensive, the stock market has stalled, wages are still relatively stagnant, your water is going to be getting a bit chunkier, energy prices are increasing directly due to Administration policies, and you’re going to dish out a few dozen billion dollars (get your kids bank account ready for that, too) for a ‘wall’ that illegals will dig under in 12 minutes with a shovel.

Call me skeptical, but I’m not really seeing much ‘winning’ going on here.
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Oh, ajax, I forgot to mention that the labor participation rate is still headed downward. Remember when that used to irk you so much during Obama’s time in office that you’d post about it here and how it supposedly reflected a failure of his policies?

Do you still feel the same way? Or is Hannity perhaps telling his viewers that a declining LPR is now doubleplus good?
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ajax18 wrote:I still care about deficits.

You sure have gotten all quiet about it now that Trump is president. Why no complaining about Trump ballooning the deficit and debt? Are you old enough you think you won't have to pay it back, but your children will?
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ajax18 wrote:My taxes sure came out better than last year. And there hasn't been any shortage of Medicaid patients. Most still ask for me since I speak espanol. Illegal immigration went down before DJT even won the election. Watch Hannity. He goes 100mph enumerating the good things that have happened since DJT was elected. One thing we've already learned from North Korea is that negotiating from a position of strength rather than apologizing for our country and trying to befriend Islamic extremists works a lot better.


If you're doing better financially this year it is only because you made a career move. I forget what you did, but you brought it up in a previous post, and it was something you could have easily done earlier if you weren't so stupid at running your own business.

Meanwhile, we who understand economics aren't at all surprised that the tax cut didn't do anything Trump promised.

Trump’S TAX CUTS DIDN’T BENEFIT U.S. WORKERS, MADE RICH COMPANIES RICHER, ANALYSIS FINDS

Workers’ wages fall after passage of GOP tax cuts
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